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Sebski

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See alot of people giving constructive feedback - which is great to see :)
From my point of view; Keytar Angel pretty much hit the nail on the head, even with the record number of players voting "Yes"; im not sure players realise how big of an update this would be and how many "newer" features of the game would have to be relocated, its important that both sides of the argument have to be considered and evaluated equally.
Sorting the votes into catagories would definately help, as the older players (Who actually experienced the free trade/old wilderness) have first hand knowledge (As jagex do) as to the pros and cons it will bring back to the game, leading up to the question - Is it really worth bringing it all back?
Balancing the argument out slightly - The bringing back of the old wilderness and free trade would lessen some of the problems faced in the economy such as merchants, although not solving the problem of bots and possibly bring back the concept of scamming into the game.
Keeping the grand exchange is an idea i do agree with - giving players at least an idea of what items are worth before selling, aswell as the upper and lower trade bounds being removed, giving more freedom to players.
Ultimately it comes down to 'Why' Jagex decided to start a potential referendum for Runescape, is it down to a simple "we were wrong" or is it an attempt to bring back all the players who have left? - If it is the latter i fear it may be too late; as other games (Without any specific mentions) are coming out with new versions/sequels and the players are moving with the times, whilst runescape remains relatively constant (Which is what the players of runescape want, but may not attract a great number of new players)
Whatever is decided all i ask is that everything is taken into account, there is alot of good constructive feedback that players have posted on the forums, which *Should* be read through before a decision is made.
Appologies for the long post
-Sebski

14-Jan-2011 23:45:31

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Well the vote is in much to a lot of people's chagrin. Unfortunately I do not have first hand knowledge of the old wildy or free trade as I did not get "into" RS until late 2009. I have however been around MMOG (as they were originally called) back when they were text based and VGA graphics were not even around. The children playing RS today (and RS is filled w/ kids) seem to have "jumped on the bandwagon vote". The referendum introduction was an extremely biased method used, instead of a Yes / No vote if you logged in then you voted yes and even I almost made that mistake.
For me RS is an escape from the real life drama and issues, it is a place for playing, communicating and to some extent relaxing. I have had memberships in the past to other multiplayer online gaming but settled on RS as it has been managed very well and always has something to do. Although it is an extreme time burner to gain a "99" legitimately.
The point to this long post is the crystal ball. I hope that I am wrong but I see the wildy becoming an area for pk ambushes that will drive those who do not wish to pk away from the game. Free trade will make the economy much worse than it's current state. Jagex will spend countless time, effort and cost to put these things in place only to have a large uproar in complaints from the community and then have to expend vast amounts of time applying "fixes". Since I renew my membership for a year at a time I will be here a while until it expires, but I am truly hoping I am wrong regarding the "crystal ball" and continue to find RS enjoyable. It would be a shame to not renew a contribution to a well managed online experience, but it seems to have the beginning odor of past debacles.

15-Jan-2011 03:40:55

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guys one simple thing this is ganna be like old wild if you are skulled and get killed whoever killed you gets all yoru items unless it is firecape or fighter torsoe as they can't get those ever anyways from a kill. and second all worlds will have wild there not ganna have worlds. they said they bringing back old wild not current one with old rules. it is ganna be like it was back then which was every world had pvp.

guys just so you know even back then not all worlds where used to pvp most times there where no people pking on one world or very little.

15-Jan-2011 08:09:45

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@sebski the problem with removing the ge price limits is that they will be merched loads and if a new player wants 2 say sell that item and no 1 is buying on the ge then they will try and sell it 2 another player
either this will give them a bad impression of runescape because they get really bored or they find some1 who wants 2 buy at the non merched price and the new player thinks they are being scammed
either way its bad 4 new player
@keytar a case by case basis means theyll look at the things and decide whether it should be available 2 players without the danger of the wildy or that there should be some difficulty in reaching it in which case it will be left in the wildy

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What Jagex wants is more money and they will get it with this new update from all the bot account that are coming. Each new bot account created is money in their pocket. They don't care about the honest players or they would do more to stop the bots, not make changes that encourage them. As an example, when they removed randoms that could kill you it made it easier for bots. Now with free trade there will be more bots than ever. Skillers won't have a chance when this happens. Try finding a hunting or mining spot when there are 1000 times more bots. If they wanted to stop bots they could, but that means less money in their pockets. Bravo Jagex for finding a way to make money at the expense of honest players. You have reached a new low.
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removing randoms that could kill u was sensible because there was lots of legitemate players getting killed by it. I agree that this update is incredibly contradictory with all jagex did 2 stop bots but if jagex wanted bots selling gold and xp 4 real money wud make them more money and most people wud prefer 2 pay than 2 bot and possibly get caught. And any sensible company has a highest priority of making money, they may do other things which they say they put first but that is only so people feel they can trust the company and therefore will stay with it therefore making more money. I agree that itll become A LOT harder 2 find resources with all the bots. It wud be nice 2 have some kind of way of reporting that gives the bot one of those things where there is one of those wiggly writing things and you have 2 type out what it says. If it could only be done to you once in a specific time limit then it wouldnt really bother legitemate players but bots wouldnt be able 2 do it

15-Jan-2011 10:52:58

Maro

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Posting a bit late, but I voted yes primarily so we could get rid of/ move the Revenents. They're worse than the PKers ever were, in my opinion...every other time I go into the Wilderness for a Treasure trail 2-3 Orks SOMEHOW triangulate on my position and decide that they would rather that they finish my clue than I do it.
They also drop, so far as I know, nothing worth fighting them for given their INSANE difficulty compared to comparably leveled monsters.

HOWEVER, I do think that if you halved the number of Revenents, it would be something of an added risk for PKers as well

15-Jan-2011 11:59:16

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i like the idea of keeping some revenants 2 deter pkers but still that just means that the wildy will be even more dangerous 4 skillers and would mean that wildy is dangerous on every world.
@bodi happy players means more profit
Anyway i prefer jagex this way because any company that doesnt concentrate on profits will go bankrupt and if jagex gets more profit then it can improve runescape more

15-Jan-2011 12:29:23

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