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Marcin K
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Marcin K

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as i've mentioned this in other thread thread [quickfind code 254-255-30-61790331* but i'm concerned it might have got lost in the flood of posts i'd like to humbly ask Jagex to please KEEP GRAND EXCHANGE MAX AND MIN PRICE LIMITS some might say free trade should be free- i respond ok but the whole greatness behind Grand Exchange is price ranging that very nicely eliminates problem of Scamming and price-walling some of the items
while keeping Grand Exchange limits intact those who would like trade free would be able to without any restrictions and those who would like to feel safe about the trade would just go to the Grand Exchange.
and more importantly without the Grand Exchange in current state [with limits] whole Runescape economy would just crumble
so to sum up keeping Grand Exchange in price-limited form does not obstruct free trade in any way so i humbly ask: Jagex please reconsider the decision of Grand Exchange limits removal cos removing them would improve nothing but keeping them would improve the game A LOT because players would have a choice then -a real influence on Runescape economy in positive way

14-Jan-2011 19:54:25

Enter Riftae

Enter Riftae

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Jagex if you read this post please understand that the only people complaining about grand exchange max and lowest prices are the people who abuse it. A.k.a, merchants. They dont play the game fairly at all. They get groups of thousands of players to buy items out of the grand exchange to increase the price of the item, and sense there isn't free trade we cant do anything but buy items off of the suppliers( aka the merchants) who dont sell them until there outrageously high. For example... a Merch Clan owner tells the group of players to buy Sharks at 1k gp, by the thousands so the Sharks are extinct in the grand exchange. Which causes the price to grow. He then tells his clan to sell the sharks when the item peaks at 5k gp, which is 4k profit for them sense we cant buy them for 1k each. So the Player killers buy the sharks they need those to pk, for 5k each. So as the Merchants sell the Sharks the price plumits to 1k again making the Merchants bank rich, and the Player Killers, and slayers poor.
Thanks for listening, to your players and giving us a second chance at the wildy/trade hopefuly we dont fail you this time.

Sincerely, Steven.

14-Jan-2011 20:46:05

KellyRoss

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I have a hard time beleaving that 1.2m people honestly want wildy back. I've looked at the pvp worlds and the population on them. If there is 300 people on the whole server its a amazing. IF that many people wanted to pk those worlds should be filled to capacity almost all the time. So the votes doesn't match game stats. As far as free trade the amount of rwt and scammers are going to sky rocket.
Heck i still see it going on with the restrictions in place.
The bots are still bad. With free trade back they will increase 10 fold, with rwt online companies farming resourses. So what they ban an account. they can make 3 more to replace it in minutes.
But that doesnt bother me. In 2 months everyone who isnt botting will be complaining about it and it will be like 5 years ago. Hundress of spaming bots, up the road from hundreds of wcing bots, above the hundreds of mining bots.
At least I can still make gp alcing.

14-Jan-2011 21:16:42

[#67PC7OXSV]

[#67PC7OXSV]

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@mike man then why is there so much spam about how people who dont want old wildy back being
a)lazy
b)boring
c)stupid
d)random swear words
e)etc.
and while merching calns might klose a bit of their effect if say u got something as a monster drop and u wanted 2 get rid of it u cud sell it on the ge and not know the avergae price so u'd sell it 4 a lot lower than it usually is or try and sell it really high, fail and just dump it
so i doubt it'd hurt merching clans very much and they'd be a lot more efficient
@marcin & bikini babes r i agree completely
i cant see how anyone can think that removing the ge price max/min limits is a good idea
extending them perhaps but removing them will destroy the economy

14-Jan-2011 21:33:57 - Last edited on 14-Jan-2011 21:41:23 by [#67PC7OXSV]

R Y O R N G

R Y O R N G

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By the looks of it, The wilderness will be returned with the Free trade. Finally, we have our freedom once again.
Thankyou very much Jagex.
Yes, stuff might be much harder now because of these two major updates. Well get ready for it, because Runescape is a challenge for you people.
Will you manage?

14-Jan-2011 22:16:23

NorwaysAngel

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Although there are many issues answered in this thread, there are still several small issues that remain untouched. I will list some examples:
1. BORK - Personally, I find the Wildy shortcut to him to be very useful. Would a new safe shortcut to him be created, or would players have to use the safe entrance and navigate all around the Chaos Tunnels as we did in the Hunt for Surok miniquest?
2. SKULLS - The skulls used for Construction are currently located in the Wildy. Would a new respawn be created in a safe area? I would presume so, as a skull is required for the Spirit of Summer quest.
3. AGILITY - It is currently possible for a mid-level Agility player to gain descent XP between Revenant attacks, thereby rendering the course useful. If PKing is too frequent, I would think that this would result in a vacant course, as it takes extra time to tele to Ardougne, get more food, tele to the Wildy, and run back to the course.
4. TREASURE TRAILS, THE BEACON NETWORK AND D&Ds - What exactly is meant by 'case-by-case basis'?
5. GHOST ROBES - Would this miniquest be treated as a quest, and therefore have the Wildy parts of it relocated?
In general, I am concerned that players may give up on some of their RuneScape goals if trying to reach them means being PK'd repeatedly.
I am also concerned that new players may quit RuneScape as a result of more experienced players financially taking advantage of them. If they don't feel that they're making adequate money for their time spent to enhance their RuneScape experience, they may resort to another game.
On another note, has this potential Wildy update been thoroughly tested? Another incident like what happened in Falador after the Construction skill was released would be highly undesirable.
I trust that Jagex has considered these (and other) issues, and that if this Wildy update occurs, it will be for the better of the entire RuneScape community.
Cheers to the future of RuneScape, whatever that future may hold! :D

14-Jan-2011 22:46:45

Van Jaci
Nov Member 2008

Van Jaci

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What Jagex wants is more money and they will get it with this new update from all the bot account that are coming. Each new bot account created is money in their pocket. They don't care about the honest players or they would do more to stop the bots, not make changes that encourage them. As an example, when they removed randoms that could kill you it made it easier for bots. Now with free trade there will be more bots than ever. Skillers won't have a chance when this happens. Try finding a hunting or mining spot when there are 1000 times more bots. If they wanted to stop bots they could, but that means less money in their pockets. Bravo Jagex for finding a way to make money at the expense of honest players. You have reached a new low.

14-Jan-2011 23:11:08

warranged

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van jaci said:
"What Jagex wants is more money and they will get it with this new update from all the bot account that are coming. Each new bot account created is money in their pocket. They don't care about the honest players or they would do more to stop the bots, not make changes that encourage them. As an example, when they removed randoms that could kill you it made it easier for bots. Now with free trade there will be more bots than ever. Skillers won't have a chance when this happens. Try finding a hunting or mining spot when there are 1000 times more bots. If they wanted to stop bots they could, but that means less money in their pockets. Bravo Jagex for finding a way to make money at the expense of honest players. You have reached a new low."
1.- I have the feeling that Jagex has in fact attended the honest players, if they didn't they wouldn't have done the referendum, they wouldn't have taken the wilderness out on the first place, and they wouldn't be looking for ways to improve the game as it just "leeches" economical resources.
2.- And since when ALL "honest" players care about botters? they have both beneficial and perjudicial consequences, stopping the inflation and bringing resources.
3.- Since when this game is all about skillers? And I think they get benefits from free trade. Just think, fletching, crafting, herblore and those semi-useless and expansive skills will become profitable again. Ok resource skills will get affected, but the amount of bots has not changed drastically, they just come in a more colorful variety.
4.-"if they wanted to stop bots they could" they tried... and lost a hell out of members. The thing is that WE WILL NEVER GET RID OUT FROM BOTS. Thats why I think we shouldn't sacrifice our gameplay freedom for something that we will never get rid off. That's like the fear of death, you won't stop crossing the street because your afraid to die, do you?
I appreciate that Jagex cared for a vote this time, unlike 2007. Thumbs up

14-Jan-2011 23:26:44

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