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MegaFrost X

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Cheesemaster:
Currently i dont think the GE can work as an auction place. The GE currently lets you buy for the lowest amount of coins possible even if you put your offer fo the highest price. the reverse applies too; even if you sell for lowest and someone buys for medium price, you will s*ll for medium price. Furthermore, i dont think auctions will work with price caps and also greedy players. Who wants to buy a monkfish for 1k gp ea from greedy playrs if there was a choice to sell beyond the price cap?

30-Dec-2010 03:10:46

ChillyWalrus
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@Doku, Yeah ok u started when rs was just starting and for ur info, i started early 07 and had a 2 yr quit (before fally massacre and wildy/trade removal)
i came back last year and pvp wasnt to bad rlly (I dont 1 item in pvp or anything so if u think i dont risk then ur wrong)
i just like it how it is now, its sort of the same thing except now u get random items, u own some1 u get drops,they own u they get drops
same procedure as old wildy but with a lil more effect, so l2accept things and move on,saying no to wildy/free trade is just my opinion,not urs.
Kind regards, XAngellicPkX

30-Dec-2010 03:11:20

Dwilly

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This is the Best thing to happen to Runescape in 4 years! Thanks you JAGeX for letting the players decide to change the current Ruinscape back to Runescape.
Cheers to 10 years and the tenth being the BEST!!!
Vote YES

30-Dec-2010 03:13:40

1stPennywise
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I voted “NO* because I feel that this is an unnecessary change for Runescape. There are PVP and bounty hunter worlds for the type of “wildy” combat that are currently available to players in designated worlds. If players feel the need to fight each other they should do so in those worlds or in the dueling arena.
Those of us who enjoy solving clue scrolls will no longer be able to do so without the threat of being attacked by punk players who think its fun to surprise attack other unsuspecting players just minding their own business.
As I always enjoy solo-ing chaos elementals, I won’t be able to get there without the thought of someone following me just to take my items.
I don’t like the revenants because of their fighting style. It is very difficult to get past the revs because of all the spell traps they throw at players. If I could design the wild, I would put more ferral monsters in the wild (ie: dragons, giants, demons, etc) that aren’t all that dangerous to people wearing melee armor but are to rangers and mages. A more broad array of monsters would be better in the wild instead of just the revs to worry about.
As for free trade, my only concern with this is RWT’s and botters coming back in mass quantity. Yes I would like to give my friends anything they need if I have it, but we’ve done fine with trade limits and item lending up to this point. Why change it now? The GE still hasn’t stopped price manipulation (ie: street price vs. market price) and bringing back free trade at this point isn’t going to stop it either. The merchant clans that are out there manipulate the prices in the GE enough without anyone attempting to stop them. Leave the GE as it is; there’s nothing wrong with it. Just stop the merchant clans.
I know all you PVP-ers and merchants out there hate reading opinions like this but that’s all this is. MY OPINION. There is no need to flame my post because I don‘t care. This is just my opinion. You have yours and this is mine.

30-Dec-2010 03:17:12

PungFu

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I agree with Shock Dfg on this whole thing.
I was a player around in 2004 so I know what the old wildy was like. I must say, I was exhilarating venturing out into God forsaken territory not knowing what was around the next corner. I wasn't much of a pker back in he day but it was amazing experiencing my first pk. You remember stuff like that. Or when you were little lvl 15 and some dude told you there was a pot of gold on the other side of the wildy. lol i was gullible. But it was fun being led into the wildy and murdered in cold blood. Old wildy would be fun, although it would be riskier to kill green drags which currently is my main source of income.
Free trade was awesome, old fashioned buying and selling. I have gotten scammed one way or another, you learned from it. Made the game more realistic. Traveling to major towns and having a ton of noobs begging for money, I miss that. Now there is no money to give 'cause of so many restrictions (lol). I do like the GE, it makes buying and selling in bulk a lot easier. They should keep the "med" or recommended value in the GE at least.
thoughts,
gold shot

30-Dec-2010 03:18:16

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I feared the worst. Everyone is in such a hype about this idea that they are actually forgetting how bad everything was back then...

Remember yew trees? 15 bots on each tree?
Remember accounts using third party programs to switch items at the last minute in a trade so you paid 200k for a mithril plate instead of rune (200k back then)
Remember spending hours on end thinking, yes, finally made enough for full dragon then seeing level 80's walking around in santa's and full dragon because they botted there?
With the introduction of all these new minigames, items, skills and ways of training. This will increase each problem easily 200%
I dont think people REALLY know what they are signing up for when they agree to this.
Pkers (or barrage safers) at mage arena, looters, lurers, just plain annoyances. Especially while doing clue scrolls. Imagine green drags for all of you who use them as a main source of income. Yeh goodluck now....
All I am saying is, make sure you really know what your saying yes to first.
Besides all i have said, I DID vote yes. I was there back then. Hence why I love rs1 so much.

30-Dec-2010 03:23:33

j0s h

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I have mixed feelings about the topic.
Back in Pre-December 11th, 2007 (yes I remember the date) I never really had a problem with getting scammed or anything, but I did do my share of pking. I would always have a blast with my friends when we got a good loot. And the moment after reading the update on that day, I was furious! I thought that Jagex was ruining the game in every way imaginable!
BUT after a few months, I got used to it and I actually started liking the new systems better once they all got sorted out! I could actually do my clue scrolls, kill the KBD, the Chaos Ele, slay some green dragons without having to worry about getting wrecked by some jerk in super expensive gear and higher stats than me!
Even though I felt restricted on how I could play the game when they changed it, I never really complained after a while. I soon forgot about the "old" Runescape. They changed it so much after it. I think that they were close to a way of perfecting the new system so that you could have as much fun as you did in the "old" Runescape in the "new" Runescape.
I would love to see the old wilderness back, but not on every world, that would just be a pain in the tail! I'd also be happy to help out my friends with gifts every now and then, and the old merchanting would be fun too. But at the same time I would not like to see the GE being taken away. And they can say all they want that if they bring back free trade, the GE will stay. Im no expert on this, but I'm pretty sure that if you can do free trade, the GE would crash in some insane way. And I think that having an expensive item shows something now!
Jagex would have to have a good new way to detect and stop RWTers and bots, but I'm sure they know that even if they don't bring it all back, there are still RWTers and bots out there.
Id love to see these changes go into affect, but I don't want to lose my Runescape experience from the past 3 years.
Thanks for reading, and have a Happy New Year!

30-Dec-2010 03:23:44 - Last edited on 30-Dec-2010 03:26:00 by j0s h

PungFu

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@mr lord
Yeah I know what you mean, hunting green drags will be way more risky. Thats the one thing I don't like about the old wildy coming back. I know the wildy is supposed to be scary, but it's a great way to make cash. Overall I don't really care for the old wildy coming back. As far as trade YES, and stacking should come back. Thats why I think they should have a more specific poll than they currently do.

30-Dec-2010 03:25:13

Phthartic

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MegaFrost,
I've said before that I don't think some worlds having free trade can work; it's all or nothing since people can just hop worlds to do their bot collecting, oops, I mean "free trading."
I think this also applies to the reason they insist on bundling free trade and old wildy in one package. They probably can't handle the large transfers of wealth resulting from player kills in the old wildy without also having free trade.
But I like your idea of limiting trade for low levels but allowing unrestricted for higher levels. In view of my last paragraph this may not be possible, but if it WAS I think my opposition to the free trade portion would evaporate. Just as it would if they could demonstrate some PROOF that they can eliminate bots to a reasonable degree.

30-Dec-2010 03:25:51

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