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MA XI
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MA XI

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I am a very old runescape player. I started playing (rs2) when it came out. Although played actively for about 4-5 years I then started to play "occasionally" and then when the big update hit the floor (no wilderness, no free trade) I simply stopped playing because it took away things that I loved doing. And that is street merchanting and well as pk.
I bought members today for my account so I could once again play runescape and perhaps go back to the way things were when I used to play.
You know, people say OMG botters coming back... but I can bet big money that there ALWAYS will be botters no matter what you do. Also, players getting scammed off their items... Well, you have to be very dumb to trust someone online in a game, and once you get scammed you learn not to do it again.
Thank you Jagex for bringing back my old runescape.

29-Dec-2010 12:19:34

Monokuma
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Well... It is a bit of a tough decision.
The Wilderness was a pretty tough place to be in while it was a major Player Killing zone before the PVP Worlds and all that. Some players didn't go in there for a fight with a player, but rather to go there for monster-slaying. For the less-skilled PKers, this was a very large unfair fight, and they would constantly be slaughtered. After the PVP worlds, the place still maintained it's high-level danger when Revenants were released. And again, low-leveled adventures are getting killed. In my opinion, I'm against the bringing back of the PKing Wilderness.
But, however, I am with free-trade. Though it has it's horrible disadvantages of being scammed, it would still allow players in need to receive a rather kind donation from better players to get what they need. Many players do have trouble making money, or holding on to it like me, and could ask a friend for an item that they might want to generously give to them rather then lend it repeatedly.
But, hey, we all have our opinions. This is just mine.

29-Dec-2010 12:24:48

killer neel

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Hi everyone,
In the first place I want to apologize because my english is not that good.
So when I heard wildy might come back I was so suprised and I would really love that free trade and wildy come back. As for many players of runescape I think most of the players would love to make this come back, and sure there are people who dont want to but you will always have people who want something and dont want something. I think it should be brought back, I have been waiting for 3 years for this. Since the day it vanished.
--Crashed Maul--

29-Dec-2010 12:25:09

DickFart2

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To start, for all of those saying that they should bar the newest accounts from voting I say use some rational thinking. Have you ever made a pure or know someone that has? Well you are looking at that example. I have been playing since '05 and I know all the good and bad of the old wilderness but dropping the crib sidings allows for the true feeling of an MMO to be revived. Another point, if the loss of players after '07 really did hit the numbers hard, why on god's green earth would they limit it to the select section of players that stayed? Jagex would be asking to be rejected in that sense. As for the update, I am all for it. I was a hardcore merchanter that played by the rules back in the day. Buy a few pieces low and sell the set high. We went by the street price, not a risen merchant clan price. When new content came out, we kept prices stable,too. Not drop our DFS in for minimum to run and a get a dragon defender. Another point to hit on is the botters. Yea, they exist and we all know it. We the players also have our arsonal, the report abuse button. Now, instead of the old w2 fally park trade, botters just throw their junk in for a %5 lower price than their macro'd item and go to town rather than sit and sell 200k yew logs. Now, with the removal of limits, comes the implication of price evaluation. The few botters that make it past the new defenses of mouse repetition detection, walk pattern warnings, and our own report abuse buttons will have to do their own pricing. The G.E. didnt build the bots in numbers but gave them a way for selling their botted items. As for the wilderness.. Long live pking!!! I was a hardcore pker back in the day and there is no other feeling than having to chase your opponent from 32 wilderness back to the line of solitude rather than have them stand right next to it since every pker in RS is standing in that same area only in 2-3 other worlds. Opinion is opinion, but irrationality is irrationality too. Jagex knows their own game.

29-Dec-2010 12:25:50

Baeyne
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I think this is an awesome idea. Lots of the old players of rs will come back.. My account is really old but ive quit about 2 times but i always come back.. Really hard to stay away.. Anyway this is a great idea and even if i voted no it would not of made a difference seeing as its a landslide.. Oh well.. I cant wait to log in soon and see i can give people loads of money.
The thing i want to know is about clan wars.. where will it go? If it doesn't move it will be hard to get there without a tele of some sort..

29-Dec-2010 12:29:01

Scream pie

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Lets have a small Economics lesson shall we? :)
Inflation: caused due to excess money circulating withing an economy,wherein, the purchasing power of an individual rises which proportionally causes rise in the values of commodities.

This is basically what we have been facing post introduction of bh worlds and the relics system.We would get these "relic" drops and give it to an npc who wld take it and give us money.
before we would give items to a player who would pay us ,the item would remain in-game ,but the npc would suck it out of existence leaving a player with money.
Thus the player has more money in return for nothing and goes on a shopping spree often buying items at max price causing inflation.
*of course we cannot discount hoarders ,merchants and other scum who wreaked havoc on us*
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This is the prime reason for people to get angry (apart from those who quit pre 2007) after the update .Although no one voiced it ,the inability of the common player to obtain items he needs caused this resentment.
Now let us look at what will happen post free trade and wildy update:
-people will start speculating and selling (decrease in prices)
-merchers will be gfed and pwnd , they will dump all their loads (price decrease)
-the relic npc's will be removed( price decrease)
-people will get ftw drops everytime they kill (price decrease)
these reasons are more than enough to combat inflation and bring about a stable economy :)
Other Concerns: I gather the prime other concern would be bots and rwt's:
Pre 2007 I wuz quite young and had the opportunity to see only a handfull of bots, however it seems that the problem wuz malignant at that time ,like a cancer threatening to kill the game ,which scarred many people into hating free trade. :( However Jag ex has taken many precautions regarding this matter and I am confident that we will never see
-cont
Before you buy/sell a rare, read this : Discontinued Items for Dummies

29-Dec-2010 12:41:02

Scream pie

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as many bot in-game ver again
The only real matter that concerns me now is RWT.. and how jagex will combat this .
If we analyse the whole situation we seem to be clear on 3/4 points and the positives far outweigh the negatives:
-we will be free of merchers
-we will finally get worthy loot in pvp
-we will finnlly regain purchasing power
-we can trade in peace with our friends and help noobs :)
negatives:
-a small risk of bots
-RWT
the last issue I would want to touch up on before ending is :scams: this is a grey area,post or pre 2007 many scams have been pulled off and it really depends on a persons grey cells rather than nything else .So basically IF YOU STAY SMART YOU WONT GET SCAMMED.
I hope I have done justice to the matter.
Cheers :)
Before you buy/sell a rare, read this : Discontinued Items for Dummies

29-Dec-2010 12:41:11 - Last edited on 29-Dec-2010 12:46:47 by Scream pie

Deiz7

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I don't think we got scammed enymore enyway :P Cuz they still have the (X) when you remove items..
and may they still have how much the prices is or not.
Anyway you not get scammed, just be cearful when you are at the last accept :)
And i HOPE its comes back! cuz then I make sure there will be at last 600,000 more players :D

29-Dec-2010 12:56:47 - Last edited on 29-Dec-2010 12:56:57 by Deiz7

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