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Grimine1

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I agree to bring free trade and Wilderness.

People say that we should not bring it back from bots. Okay, but trade limit or no trade limit there will be bots. Yes, they might be more if we go along with this. But Jagex has better technology to find the botters and catch them faster.
So I agree! Let free Trade be here soon!

27-Dec-2010 15:23:16

Baboguiche

Baboguiche

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The only problem (Its not a big problem) I have with this is that killing dragons or any wilderness based activities will become very hard to get to or to complete, being hunted by higher levels and getting hunted by clans or groups etc. Other than that Runescape is constantly getting better graphics and now Jagex are bringing back this, Runescape just keeps getting better and better. (One last thing I think the G.E should still have price limits so us players have an idea of the price we should be trading or selling our items.) Please keep your bad or hateful comments of my opinion to your self's, I don't want any grief. Yours sincerely Predator 51. ;)

27-Dec-2010 15:35:43 - Last edited on 30-Dec-2010 13:44:58 by Baboguiche

1quilla1
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I have to say that Rembroth on the previous page is absolutely spot on. I agree with everything she has said.
I hope some of you so called "pk is everything" players read and understand.
Those players that quit the game and are now saying we will quit again if we have to. You have been gone for 2 years, I assume during that time you have been playing other games, obviously they didnt pamper to your egos so you are now back to try again here. Better get your teddys ready to throw again as I doubt the wildy will be exactly as before.

27-Dec-2010 16:03:30

Lionsfan 13
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Lionsfan 13

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I think overall this is a good decision to bring back the wildy and free trade but i agree to what was said before about the grand exchange. I like the limits because it gives a ball park for where we should be trading at.
My biggest problem with the wildy is that if i have a clue scroll going into the wildy i do not want to have to worry about other players trying to kill me. Revs are hard enough to deal with but if i am worried about other players it could get ugly.
I have faith that jagex will implement it properly because the old runescape was great but with new updates going back may have some flaws in the game.

27-Dec-2010 16:16:32

[#G9D7WHCCR]

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Hi, It is unfortunate that you did not separate the two topics - improved trading, and turning the wild into pvp.
The restrictions on private trade "as is" are TOO restrictive, as they make it difficult to sell some items, but "NO LIMITs" is just foolish. A more practical approach would have been to have something like a 10 - 25% price limit on items.
While I can understand the joy some must feel in knowing that they will now be able to rob / steal from even more people by opening the wild to PVP play, I don't share in this spirit.
When I joined RS, I really felt that the other players were there to help me learn the game, and were generous with both their time and small gifts - an important part of starting the game. In turn, I sometimes return to Lumby just to help out a few new players get started, especially with the challenge of learning the GE.
The mindset that focuses on player killing is really the opposite of generous - and usually focused on lying and greed. I don't mind at all if people want to play in pvp, and I have done it, but is this really the nature of play that RS wants to have in its overall game play ?
The existing PVP and similar worlds allow a place for the darker side of play to be clearly isolated, allowing a more generous, but competitive game to be played in the "normal" worlds. Opening up all worlds to PVP like greed will permeat the game like a giant stench.
As a practical matter, I do a number of activities in the wild, some are risky with the revs, but that is manageable. With the wild becoming PVP, more or less it will become unusable to anyone but player killers. At the very least - KEEP THE REVS in the Wild.
If you insist on bringing this player killer mode back to "most worlds", please consider to make some "non pk wild" worlds, for the rest of us.
If you cannot find it possible to accomodate those like me, then I will plan to cancel my account and all of those I pay for in my family.
Sincerely,
Redemonslayr

27-Dec-2010 16:51:51 - Last edited on 27-Dec-2010 17:20:07 by [#G9D7WHCCR]

OdensNeptune

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On the GE, I don't think anyone will notice how important it will be until it's gone, or drastically changed for the probably worse. The GE has been the easiest way to buy items since it came out. As much as I loved the sitting in world 1 for 5 hours straight trying to sell / buy an item, I really don't miss it. If the GE has set prices i.e. Full rune 200k, Whip 1m, etc. The good prices of the good ol' days, what do we do if we keep the GE? Set the Min on Whip to 950k and the Max at 1.05m? Yeah, probably. Sounds great to me. This way, items won't change prices and merching clans will eventually go away. Just never change the prices Jagex. C'mon! Less work for you guys!
I'm only against free trade because if Free Trade is removed how many of us would honestly never buy gold or items? A majoriy, but there's the minority who would and ruin the game. With free trade, buying gold and giving items will become the biggest problem AGAIN. So I came up with a method to effeciently cut down on this.
Everyone enters in their birthday when they log in. On your birthday, you can buy 1!!! resevered item on the GE by your friend for 1/5 of the cost. You can only do this once a year. But then... what happens if you immedately turn around and sell it for 400% profit gain? Lock the item to you and only you for one whole year effectively making them so bored that they no longer want to sell it for huge profits. If you get like dragon plate though, when you enter the wilderness with it on, the player will have a giant X over their head indicating that if you kill this player, you will not recieve an item from them. But what about them attacking you? Players with the X above their head cannot deal damage to other players.
I've mentioned on another thread about expanding to trade limit to 100k per day so I won't touch on that.
I liked RS before the trade limit with the GE and the bar at the bottom which showed the price comparsion. Can we keep that? That'll cut down scamming a lot.

27-Dec-2010 17:21:22

Im Mischief

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For those who pointed out that the vote is much less in numbers then the first vote; many of my friends that voted the first time refused to log back on to RS and vote the second time, as they do not play this game any more, and many of them just said “whatever I will believe it when I see it.” In other words they don’t feel like they should have to come back to vote again and bother with account p a s s recovery to vote in a game that they are not willing to put any effort into without seeing something real first.
Yes they would play if the vote goes though, but they will not waist any more of their time voting twice. Many of them just will not bother to mess with it because they are still angry over the update 3 years ago, and none of them believe Jagex will bring back the wildy and free trade. Many of them sighted the second vote as a way of getting out of bringing it back, hence they are refusing to be lead on.
I personally DO NOT think Jagex is messing with its players but many of my friends that no longer play do.
It would have been better to do the vote this way the first time, and the count would have been more accurate.
Also 90 % of the vote is in favor of free trade and wildy. If 90% of the players are in favor of it, then it is time to bring it back. AS I said in a post before, I only play this game on and off, before the update I p2p all the time and never let my sub expire. I still like the game but not enought to play all the time with its current layout.

27-Dec-2010 17:26:16

Tyronne

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Please stop complaining about PKers killing you while you are skilling in the wilderness, remember that there are over are over 160 worlds and I guarantee that they wont all be full of PKers ready to kill you at your air orb or runite ore spots.
Also remember that this is the way runescape used to be, people could still do clue scrolls in the wilderness people could still skill and if anything revenants are the same as pkers, revenants are in every world and patrol the wilderness all day whereas there might be quieter times in the day where there are hardly any PKers in the world you are in.
They are also equally dangerous because revenants attack you on sight, whereas some PKers may kindly let you get on with your skilling, they attack you with all of the combat triangle whereas PKers probably wont. Also dont forget you can always teleport whereas reenants can TB you at any level.
Also please stop ranting about the referendum being unfair. Yes people are making new accounts and voting yes but also remember that people voting no can also make new accounts and continuously vote no, so the referendum obviously shows that more people are in favour of some if not all of the update.
But hopefully Jagex do realise that not everyone likes change and makes a few worlds where people can have a "safer" wilderness. Although my understanding is that a wilderness in real life would have people in it not ghosts and that it is supposed to be "dangerous" so it shouldnt really matter whats in there, because when you go there you know you are venturing into a dangerous area and if you are worried about losing items then go get a teleport some food or better yet use one item and make sure you dont attack anyone so you keep all your stuff.

27-Dec-2010 17:27:30

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