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Mystic Monad
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Mystic Monad

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Agent B MiB,
I didn't say using blood altar tabs is an efficient alternative. In fact, I said "it's only worth doing if you enjoy playing GOP."
Some people love that minigame, and play it for hours just for the fun of it. And if they do, then they've got to do *something* with all those tokens. Personally, I play GOP enough to get tokens for tabs to do slayer tasks at mutated bloodvelds, repair rc pouches at GOP, and tele to Moonclan Island now and then.
And yes, there are many other good ways to get RC exp. With the return of free trade, it's even possible that the various rune running companies will have a resurgence, providing some of the fastest rc exp in the game.

24-Jan-2011 18:29:47

1quilla1
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Mystic,
I don't believe any of my comments you commented on were about the size of the wildy. I am more interested in the facts that Jagex wanted the Wildy to be dangerous, but obviously not dangerous enough to include some skills. All the things that have been ommitted were things that Pkers said they didnt want. Strange how only the things Pkers want get added!!! oops being cynical again.
And yes I still believe that this is being turned into a Pkers game, like Patches said how long before the rich pickings don't go into the wildy and they want something else adding.
Backdating the system I feel will proove to be a mistake.
Shame they are undoing all the good work that won Jagex their Golden Demon Awards.

24-Jan-2011 19:48:40

Mystic Monad
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1quilla1,
Sorry, but I read your post through three times, and I still can't quite figure out what you're talking about. So I don't think I can respond intelligently to most of what you are saying.
As for pkers getting everything they want, that seems like a bit of hyperbole to me.
What pkers really want is the old wildy. That's one BIG thing Jagex is giving them.
But giving them *everything* they want? I don't think so! That's a skiller's paranoia, imnsho.
Pkers think *skillers* get everything they want. :P
What I was pointing out is that the vast majority of the RS map will still be devoted to the activities of skillers even after Feb. 1, and there is no danger that Jagex is going to turn the entire game over to pkers.
It would be financially ruinous for Jagex to do so, since it would alienate the majority of its players, who are not pkers.
It's not a matter of keeping cynicism in chack. It's a matter of realizing that Jagex is not that stupid and incompetent! ;-)
Runescape did not get this big by Jagex thumbing its nose at its players.

24-Jan-2011 22:40:36

dunforgiven

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...providing some of the fastest rc exp in the game...
sure, if your willing to pay for it. jagex might as well name this pk/merchscape. in the past rc was strickly a measure who was the richest, thus could pay for peopel to run AND give them the runes plus more ess.
most of the time i saw in the forum people doing those companies, they offered money, plus esses, plus runes. thats a lot of money, and most of us cant make that kind. ill run air first. i can do that after i get rid of my membership for being insulted so badly. frankly my dear, I couldn't give a dam. never had a river to build one on.
veteran of 4 runescapes

25-Jan-2011 01:16:35 - Last edited on 25-Jan-2011 01:21:55 by dunforgiven

Phthartic

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Agent--
For RC, which is one of my least favorite skills to train, because it feels so darn slow, I always do the ZMI altar but I do it on lunars. I objected on principal to paying the bankers extortion at the altar. I bring pouches, a mud staff, a bit of armor, my Ardy cape (a bit of a bonus), a supply of laws and astrals, an essence carrying familiar and tele back and forth to moonclan bank. One direction there's a slightly longer walk, but the other way it's less, so it probably works out just as fast.
I tried GOP once and didn't care for it much myself.
I've been thinking since I can do any runes (80 RC) I really should try bloods, but I guess I'll never get around to that now....

25-Jan-2011 07:53:31

1quilla1
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Mystic,
Pkers may want the old Wildy back, and what predicament does that put Jagex in. Since the old Wildy days where Hacking, Scamming, Bots and RWT were rife**** has moved on.
We now have new skills, some of which are being allowed in the wildy and some are not.
The point I am making is simple.
All skills should be allowed in the Wildy, reason is - it is Wild, it is dangerous.
Its not a case of yes its dangerous enough to have people running around with familiars, but to allow people to run around with Extreme potions, no thats much to dangerous. The reason given of extremes give hidden stats, what a load of rubbish (it's supposed to be dangerous).
This is where I feel Jagex is bowing down to Pkers, I have followed most of this chat since it began. )I can't say I have read all)
All the things I have mentioned that are being ommitted are the things the Pkers were saying they didn't want in it.

25-Jan-2011 08:15:43

Phthartic

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Quilla--
I appreciate the desire to hold PKers to their oft and loudly proclaimed standard of "it's the wildy; it's supposed to be dangerous," but my current plans are to try to continue to use the wildy occasionally. (Can we NOW officially call the PKers who kept insisting Jagex was going to move clues and D&Ds out of the wildy either liars or at least so wrong as to deserve no consideration?) I think leaving the Revs there would be a suitable punishment for them (not that it's going to happen...) but I'd rather not give them more tools to make their kills even quicker.
Again, it's not going to matter what we say here, but do you just plan on forgoing ALL wildy content from now on, or do you want to have at least a slightly better chance of survival on those occasions when you need to go there?
They ARE bowing to PKers though, beyond the obvious:
They're making untradable wearables valueless to use defensively and increasing their value to the PKers.
They've eliminated some escape maneuvers, and are considering eliminating other defensive maneuvers like teleporting.
They're considering allowing them to cheat by trading between their various accounts.
It's too late in the day for me to remember more advantages they're giving the PKers above and beyond "old wilderness," but you get the idea.

25-Jan-2011 08:35:52 - Last edited on 25-Jan-2011 08:45:35 by Phthartic

1quilla1
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Phthartic,
You don't have to convince me that the game is becoming more pk orientated, I am in full agreement.
On your question will I avoid the wildy, the answer to that is yes unless I get a clue scroll, then I won't be wearing anything valuable. Other than that I can't see the point in going in there.
My whole point on this backdate of the system is that you cant have a wildy but not make it mildly dangerous, thats just a cop out. If its wild leave the Revs in, let everyone use whatever skills they have worked on and earned the right to use. I suppose that would rely on Pkers actually having to work though, perish the though!!!!

25-Jan-2011 09:03:01

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