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HolyAceX
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@agent
no one is insulting your minority you are infact insulting the majority and the staff and creators of runescape.
i for one hope you leave why because the game is not a place for lieing manipulating cheaters

18-Jan-2011 02:09:31

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Megaman9211

18-Jan-2011 02:00:47
...one i am a part none of those three group you your self sound as if you are though...
then you have nothing to gain from the updates and have no reason to want them back. the passion you demonstrate in your arguements prove that you are one of the three.
...you would be surprised how long people will wait for the better deal...
i was here in the old days and saw time and time again how merchants undercut anyone trying to do a better deal.
...in this system does that far worse than free trade ever did. ...
here are facts, wither you want to believe it or not. in th old days, merchants sold for 200 gps each. since the blast furnace didnt exist, this meant that when coupled with the cost of ores, you lost 10 percent of your money when you smithed anything. now the problem was, when skillers tried to sell, they seldom had the amounts that people needed and so they would try to sell their 200 coal for 200. this woudl have gained them 40000 gp. now as they sat around offering a merchant would sell 20k coal for 199. most smithers needed large amounts of coal, so they would take the bigger deal.
if a miner tried to sell for 199, the smither still needed a larger amount so would still go with the merchant. even if the miner cut the price to 190 the merchant would simply match his deal, or even offer large amounts for a little higher. eventually, the miner would be forced to sell to the merchant for 140 gp.
...you are the one fully clueless of what is going on. ...
i know a lot more about this game that you have shown. i know about the polls which you deny. i did research on the bots and know about the rwters using stolen credit cards (if you dont beleive that, then search for "rs vs real world traders" and see what jagex said).
no, i have a lot more clues about reality that you do. you cant even use sentences. frankly my dear, I couldn't give a dam. never had a river to build one on.
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18-Jan-2011 02:18:11

dunforgiven

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Megaman9211

18-Jan-2011 02:09:31
@agent
no one is insulting your minority you are infact insulting the majority and the staff and creators of runescape.
once again, your cluelessness is astonishing. the majority isnt pkers or merchants. its skillers and questers and we ARE being insulted by this update. we ARE being insulted by the obviousness of the fruadalant vote. frankly my dear, I couldn't give a dam. never had a river to build one on.
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18-Jan-2011 02:20:18

HolyAceX
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@agent
i not deny that some of what you say is true i agree with you on a few things
however just because personally i thought wildness was more fun with people running around trying to kill me and because i liked to be able to help more noobs than one every hour..
just because i like the update does not make me any of the 3 and the fact that your saying everyone is that voted yes mean to me that you are insulting every player of the game and their option of it. YOUR option is no the only i will not argue that all the people who voted yes are just there for the fun and the true good of it all. but stating this system was better than the old is a matter of option and u and me are only 2 people we can;t read minds you can;t accuse every pay that does not AGREE with you of because a liar or of being merchant or of being pker or of being a rwters which is very rude and i hope that the mods get on to you for that because those are all false and cruel claims to make on someone with a different option

and also to be honest half the population of the game does quest skills and pke
some just forcus on skill and a few are pure looking to make good in the wild u are confusing this however
pker probably voted yes
merchant would never give you their found power in this system

18-Jan-2011 02:26:31 - Last edited on 18-Jan-2011 02:28:29 by HolyAceX

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Actually most players are just not pkers, skillers, merchanters, or questers, but rather, average players that are the majority. I think a suitable population from greatest to least would be: Average players, PKers, skillers, questers, and merchanters.

18-Jan-2011 02:43:42 - Last edited on 18-Jan-2011 02:45:37 by [#CNR2WGUA6]

dunforgiven

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then you would be wrong.
a series of polls taken in 07 showed that very few people actually pked on a regular basis. they did show that people skilled a lot more than pk, and even questers were more numerous that pkers or merchants.
for example, one of the polls asked how often players had killed other players either in duels, pking, or pvp games. the majority said 0 to 5 times in their ENTIRE HISTORY. only A TENTH of the players had pked more than 10 times and even a smaller fraction had ever pked more than 25 times.
its rather suspicious that you cant see those polls just when they are needed for these arguments. frankly my dear, I couldn't give a dam. never had a river to build one on.
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18-Jan-2011 02:50:11 - Last edited on 18-Jan-2011 02:54:05 by dunforgiven

HolyAceX
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@agent
the problem with that is the word killed just because a player has not killed as many as another does not mean they d not pk more or less than someone else for example a good day and a player could kill around 30 people some how in a trip but never pk again for 6 year but for them they have quote kill 30 people before
where as someone go pk all the time and not get as many kills its all a matter off when and where
and guess the Exchange will still be around so a player does have to sit there a keep trying to buy they just put it up at a price they find fair and buy it till they don't need it

AGENT STOP LABELING
the fact are there are most average players than anything else
i would fall under a quester probably why i do more quests than anything else i also fall under a skiller why i do a lot of skills to do my quests i also sell and buy items i need like air runes i mit need i may buy them or make them
or like a barrows item i may get one and not want it so i will sell it. and in that cast i would fall under a mini gamer why i like some of the new mini games i would also be and aid why i like to help new players .
the thing if u look at there are no just pure quester why u need skills for quests
there no pure skiller you need combat for skills and combat is a skill
the game is made up of people average people who you are labling and trying to read the minds.
also just because someone has a opyion other than yours about an update does not make them one of these three things you have try to lable me with the fact that you are doing that shows how little you know of the game and how stupid you are to what is around you
The real facts are its hard to do anything one of these just by them self you can't try to say everyone does not exist and that special group do

18-Jan-2011 03:03:28 - Last edited on 18-Jan-2011 03:50:47 by HolyAceX

HolyAceX
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Here is another question skiller will be effected by wild? lol they won't even notice
questers effected by wild ? maybe a little but as stated by jagax stuff will be moved around due to this
skiller being effected by free trade not really they just put there money o nthe exchange at what they feel is fair for what they want and go about another skill as they wait like mining mining can be done and lvls waiting for stuff ot buy and its a skiller wow shocker mutitask amazing :P quester will not notice the change at all either about the free trade heck i quest a lot and it was easy to get what i need then and easy now

18-Jan-2011 03:54:00

Solastic
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Rune HQ is conducting their own poll.
Here is their current results.
(keep in mind that their sample size is small)
Both 17313 (58.78%)
Free Trade Only 8487 (28.82%)
The Wilderness Only 1805 (6.13%)
Neither 1530 (5.19%)
No Opinion 317 (1.08%)
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calculations
both plus free trade only= 25800 (87.6%)
both plus wilderness only= 19118 (64.91%)
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conclusions:
By extraction only two out of three that voted yes voted yes, of the 91%, voted in support of the wild,where as nearly all voted in support of free trade.
I support the notion that you cannot have the wild without free trade, but free trade can exist without the wild.
The vote was set in order to get the result they wanted!!!
Jagex either needs to hold a separate poll ,or this poll needs to be repeated in 6-8 months after people actually gets a chance to see what they voted for, but you and i know that that is not going to happen.

18-Jan-2011 03:56:07 - Last edited on 18-Jan-2011 04:00:58 by Solastic

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