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JohneySteel

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AgileLegend
"91% isn't accurate even. So many people accidentally voted "YES" on the poll."
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No one accidently voted "YES" on the poll. Some people accidently put thier name in the petition without knowning it wasn't for Yes or No.
None of the 1.7mil petition names were not added to the Yes votes that led to the 91% we received.
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15-Jan-2011 19:30:03 - Last edited on 15-Jan-2011 19:49:37 by JohneySteel

JohneySteel

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@Senssational
91%_ of 1,234,658 = 1,123,539 (Yes Votes)
7%__ of 1,234,658 = 86,426 (No Votes)
2%__ of 1,234,658 = 24,693 (Don't Mind Votes)
The majority has spoken clearly.

15-Jan-2011 19:36:14 - Last edited on 15-Jan-2011 19:36:38 by JohneySteel

JohneySteel

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For all the people that complained about "unfair votes" lets get something straight.
Regardless of how many of our 1,123,539 Yes Votes that may have been from one person on multiple accounts, The amount of REAL players would still be higher than the amount of REAL players that voted no.
Lets Pretend that all 86,426 No Votes are legit, meaning none of them are from duplicate accounts from the same player.
Lets round our 1,123,539 Yes Votes down to 1,000,000 flat.
Now lets take away 500,000 from that 1,000,000 Yes Votes, leaving 500,000 Yes Votes. If multiple accounts really contributed THAT much of the Yes votes, they're removed.
Lets cut that in half for any potential Bots or RWT people claim were voting. That would remove 250,000 and leave Yes Votes with 250,000.
Even with 250,000 Yes Votes its clear that we are the Majority and you are the Minority.
No voters did not even get to 100,000 otes. How can you say the voting was unfair?
You clearly have been outspoken by the mass.

15-Jan-2011 19:45:00 - Last edited on 15-Jan-2011 19:47:43 by JohneySteel

timelostmuch

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Honestly, I believe once all worlds have the wilderness again, and instead of people getting random items and abusing the system (losing only 76k to get millions of loot) Or getting nothing for drops such as Bandos, Godswords, Dragon claws, Etc. I believe it will increase gameplay and reduce lag, so that not every single pker is in just one world therefore making the lag significantly reduced.
As far as free trade I say go for it. Right *ow gold-farming is on the rise, where people are not only willing to risk their money but their accounts as well, if Jagex says they can combat it then go for it, because as far as i'm concerned if someone is going to cheat, they will find a way.
In conclusion, I really hope Jagex brings back the wilderness it will really bring back not just the excitment of pking, but many forms of pking that are now dead, such as Dharok pking.
Also, I believe that we should not have one-item protect worlds, that we should do it the way we always have, and that if you get "Smited out" or "Soul spilt out" You lose all you're items, and that you are not automatically skulled that way you can 4 item PK.
Thank you for all of your hard work Jagex and congradultions on all your dreams coming true. I really do hope the Runescape community builds and you become very wealthy so that updates in the future are very profound.
Always,
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15-Jan-2011 19:56:07

dunforgiven

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your got it in reverse again there sonny.
half of the voters are bots, not half of the no voters.
that means 600k are bot accounts. accounts created to bot. a lot of them are suvivors of the old days, plus jagex gave them plenty of time to make more.
that leaves 600k accounts and since the average (from a poll) number of accounts pkers own, is 7, that puts it well below 100k, and since pkers had to opportunity to make more just to fluff the vote, your looking at about 50k actual players.
the only way this could possibly be fair to rcers is to remove the autoskulling.
frankly my dear, I couldn't give a dam. never had a river to build one on.
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15-Jan-2011 19:58:39 - Last edited on 15-Jan-2011 20:00:06 by dunforgiven

JohneySteel

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So many posts and the No voters still havent clearly given a good reason for *** wanting it back.
Most heard complains:
RWT
- Real World Trading. People selling game items for real life cash. This is an issue that Jegax is well aware of and will be addressing themselves. Why complain and worry yourself over something Jagex knows more about as a company than you as an individual player?
Scamming
- Its gotten increasingly harder to scam people via trade screen. If you somehow manage to get scammed that way, it is your own fault as you were not paying attention enough. Learn from it and don't make the same mistake twice.
- Other meathods of scamming would move more towards luring. Things like the Mole Hole scam or the Zammy Wine scam which won't do scammers any good as Gravestones will say in game. When you die, other players most likely wont be able to get your items. If they can, you have 2 - 6mins to reach back to where you died at.
Botting
- It happens everyday, even now. Jagex has cut it down significantly and I know that many players are expecting to see a rise in mass botting at trees, mining areas, fishing areas, ect. Jagex is also expecting this and will be doing something about it
Clue Scrolls
- Not a real issue as clue scrolls were in the wilderness before the update of 07'. Theres no reason for them to be relocated with the other events post 07'.
Skilling
- Again... who skills in the wilderness? The one and ONLY relevant reason for skilling in the wilderness ive found was RC. But even RC isn't a good enough reason to not being the wilderness back as people use to RC using the abyss before the wilderness change. I never had a problem RC back then and when this update comes, it wont be much of an problem for me to continue doing it.

15-Jan-2011 19:59:41

dunforgiven

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15-Jan-2011 19:59:41
So many posts and the No voters still havent clearly given a good reason for not wanting it back
thats the point. we dont care if it comes back as long as its not in all worlds.
thats the difference between skillers and pkers. skillers are willing to compromise, whereas pkers insist on forcing skillers to FEED them.
frankly my dear, I couldn't give a dam. never had a river to build one on.
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15-Jan-2011 20:00:45 - Last edited on 15-Jan-2011 20:03:11 by dunforgiven

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