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JohneySteel

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Dark pwnes said:
Dear Jagex,
This won't work.
Most of the people who vote yes did not even play the game when it had free trade and wildy.
When you really do this, there will me millions of botters online every day, the whole day.
there will be really rich botters, poor lvl 138 player, no ways to make money, because some people will sell d claws, godswords, 3rd age armour and much more for many times the price it is now. and the Party Hats will sell for many billions.
Sure, you will get some players back, but you will lose real players, and gain botters. Make staking with no limit, make the trade limit higher and bring the wildy back on some worlds.
This will make the game better, and brings part of the old feeling back.
This way people can still stake for all their money, but GE will remain how it is now.
You don't have to yell "B sale" all day long, before somebody buys something from you.
You don't have to make an offer when somebody sells something.

Sincerely, a player who played With free trade and the old Wildy.
Dark Pwnes (Godwar12, as I was known back in 2007)
(Continued)

13-Jan-2011 18:31:48 - Last edited on 13-Jan-2011 18:36:13 by JohneySteel

JohneySteel

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Dear Dark pwnes,
You dont know what your talking about.
A MAJORITY of the yes votes, are from players who DID play back when the game had free trade and old wilderness.
When they release the update, there will NOT be millions of botters online everyday as Jagex feels they have a way of combating them.
Botters don't get rich and leave higher leveled players poor. Botters are lazy people who acquire items without doing the work themselves.
People can and try selling whips, claws, godswords, 3rd age for an over priced amount, but competetion is what will set the prices.
"Selling whip 20mil" right next to someone "Selling whip 3mil" wont do the high seller any good. In order to compete, he/she will have to drop thier price to one that is more reasonable.
Jagex already lost real players, and they are the ones who voted and showed that majority rules. No voters are under 100k votes, while yes voters are over 1mil. what does that say?
If you make staking with no limit, people will trade items via staking. There would be no need to use the trade systen if you can easily work around it.
Bringing wildy back on some worlds would caught mass clans to dominate the few pk worlds that exist. With wildly returning to all worlds, smaller groups can fight 6v6 instead of 6v30.
You dont have to yell "B sale" all day long before someone buy's from you because Grand Exchange won't be going anywhere.
If you dont have to make an offer when someone is selling something, then you dont deserve anything. Stop being lazy and learn to trade and make offers to people for what you want.
Sincerely, a player who played with free trade and old wildy.
Johney525 (never changed my name, been the same since 2002)

13-Jan-2011 18:34:28 - Last edited on 13-Jan-2011 18:38:32 by JohneySteel

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Johney525
"People can and try selling whips, claws, godswords, 3rd age for an over priced amount, but competetion is what will set the prices"

i disagree with this if free trade comes then it olny be the rich and the merchent that will take complete control of the prices just like the old day everytime a new item came out.... instead of have a neutral party where the price have inflation etc just like a real ecomany (jagex-G.E)
mind some of my bad spelling

13-Jan-2011 18:38:18

Scott Stb

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guys bit of news here but if you remove trade limits that means you cant limit the prices of items on the grand exchange because in free trade items are worth what you will pay for them and i remember back in the good old days where items didnt change in price that much. for example a law rune was 300 gp each. another example is the whip bck then a whip was 1.5m as long as i could remember the whip was about 1.5m until the G.E came about, thats when items prices changed dramatically because of merchers and many other factors but the main factor is clan merchers.
FREE TRADE OWNS>>>>
and as for the wildy, if like me you dont like pvp then stay out of the wilderness or only go in with a few items and dont get skulled.
PEACE OUT!!!!!!
Scott T B

13-Jan-2011 18:39:03

Agent Brian

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Hello there,
I have been a loyal player for for every year that runescape has been released and i am happy too say that jagex as a company has come along way sence the pre runescape design and i am glad to say i will support jagex in anyway possible to help and support the players and company that has brought so much too us ty jagex for pleasingus as gamers and as a family..

I miss the old days... could jagex please bring the old dance back just for a month or so haha it was so much fun and would bring back so much memories !

as with old pking i am fine with it but could you guys have some sort or limit on how much people can trade .. i dont need real world tradeing to be come a big deal again and things like that ...u guys should leave the grande exchange open and leave the prices the same as it is now ..so that new players do now get scammed like the old days..but any ways keep up the good work and try to make us superised for more days to come thank you ...

13-Jan-2011 18:39:53 - Last edited on 13-Jan-2011 18:40:35 by Agent Brian

JohneySteel

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massive guts
"i disagree with this if free trade comes then it olny be the rich and the merchent that will take complete control of the prices just like the old day everytime a new item came out.... instead of have a neutral party where the price have inflation etc just like a real ecomany (jagex-*.*)"
I disagree with this because the econemy is ruined as it is right now. Merch Clan manipulate prices on items and scam people out of thier hard earned cash, while simplily sitting around G.E and making money off them.
I bought my ags for 109mil, when it was high priced. A month or 2 later, ags crashed. Today its only 53mil. where did half my money go? To merch clans to inflated AGS price then dropped it after they made enough money from it.
There are no neutral partys and Jagex G.E isnt a thing because they dont control prices. G.E does, and the players who buy and sell.
Merch clans ruin ge and change prices for thier own benifits.

13-Jan-2011 18:42:33

Fp 4 Ever

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massive guts
Jagex is not controlling price merchanting clans are.
As for wild and free trade:
I have been playing since 2000/2001, the only thing i enjoy in the game is pking. I have been here on and off since 2007 because of the addiction I have and because of the great people I have met here.
I have 30-50 friends which I haven't seen online since wild gone who have came back now and voted yes. We were all pking together in the old wilderness.
Also around 20 friends irl who are comming back because i told them wild is comming back.
I pk as a pure because I cannot wait 10 Min for a battle with all 0s then one of us runs out of food etc.
And i feel runescape is against pures, we cannot do most clues there are bugs when you change from automage after death your fighting mode will be defensive, we cannot do quests like lunar and have vengeance due to 60 defence requirement and so on.
The big thing about current pvp is the EP. i am a pure and i cannot run around wild allot even 1 itemers can waste half my food, i have 70 mil xp and 900 xp of that is defence.
I have 2 more pures but i levelled their defence because it was too hard being a pure but since i dont play on them any more I decided not to make same mistake on 3rd pure.
Sorry for going of topic but wilderness is were most people play including 200 people on my friend list.
I hope its back soon I cant wait I just started playing for real again.
sorry about spelling I'm from swe :p

13-Jan-2011 18:44:37 - Last edited on 13-Jan-2011 18:50:05 by Fp 4 Ever

JohneySteel

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"I pk as a pure becouse i cannot wait 10 min for a battle with all 0s then one of us runs out of food etc."

Agreed, you made a good point there. Thats one of the reasons ive been trying to keep my defence as low as possible (but failed to do it as i wanted).

13-Jan-2011 18:47:38

KellyRoss

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Well as an old player that remembers things from 2004 I didn't like wildy back then. As for everyone who claims to like pvp look at the pvp worlds. Your lucky if you see 2-400 people on one. So its odvious that majority of players don't enjoy pvp. If they did those worlds would be packed.
I would also like to point out that the reason for the changes was so everyone could enjoy the game. If you want to pvp there is worlds for that. If you dont you go to a non pvp world and take your chances with uber npc's.
As far as free trade. Big mistake. The real world traders will be out in force. I already had a customer from my gameshop message me about that. Asked if I would be selling stuff for RS gold in my shop. I told him no, that would get my very old account shut down. I worked hard at what little I have. As great as free trade sounds its fundamentaly flawed. your going to get people selling stuff on a well known online trading sites, craigs list and in places like mine for RS gold or selling rs gold for rw items.
My point is that Jagex did a wonderfull job with the G.E. and wildy. If i want to go out and pvp I can switch to a world that allows it. Yes I'm an old man and there will be kids saying how much better old wildy and free trade was. Thing is the votes say one thing, but I read many threads and most of the community says otherwize.
If things get changed back to the old ways It would be bad. Before making any changes votes or not, think of all the old problems you had. They will be back.
I also think that the vote should of had more options or at least had it as a forum vote. At least then you would know who really cares for the game.
Makes me wonder how many "new" accounts have been made just to vote?

13-Jan-2011 18:47:46

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