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Impaled Fox

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I don't understand why people are complaining about scamming and RWTing, or even botters. If you aren't smart enough to know when you're getting scammed, maybe you should go play WoW. There will always be RWTing and botters as long as people have the motivation to make RL money from lazy players buying off websites. It can't be stopped.
Also, if people would read the referendum completely,Jagex has already stated that they are going to move certain things from the wild into safer parts of the Runescape world. So, stop b****ing about that issue.
This goes without saying, I'm definitely voting yes to Free Trade and Old Wilderness.
I've never had as much fun on any other video game, for the insane amount of hours I've put into this game, has I've had in the Old Wilderness PKing bad kids!
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12-Jan-2011 17:40:17

Dannyking

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Death and blood runes are the best runes in the game, they should be hard to obtain. And being someone who has ran nats threw the abyss when the wildy was still there. It isnt that bad, i maybe died once in making 10k nats and there are also alot of pkers who kill the ones killing the abyss runners so its not like every time you run out there your being killed

12-Jan-2011 17:40:21

N4M37413F

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I think that the Free Trade and Old Wilderness shouldn't be brought back.
Although I can see how the Free Trade would be very useful and welcomed by some people, making people work for the money they earn makes the game much more fair than otherwise, even if this isn't everyone first choice. Also, in the long run it will make the game more enjoyable. I personally believe that the trade limit should be loosened, at least by a factor of 3, but detest the idea of its removal.
Secondly, the wilderness now offer much more great features than when it was patrolled by PKers. I though that PvP world would be a great idea at first, but the Drop Potential game mechanics ruined it. Players should get what the killed for, 100%.
After all the problems the Free Trade and Old Wilderness cause for new (and sometimes old) players, it would be a shame to see them return. I think new solutions should be brought in, like looser trade limits and specialised worlds for PKing, to avoid the player-caused problems that first occurred.

12-Jan-2011 17:53:50

Lothmonsta1

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Agent B from all the stuff you say about skilling, I'm guessing you are a skiller, I have no problems with that but I think your being rather selfish. You have to understand that skilling isn't the ONLY way to play this game there were many pkers, merchanters, and stakers out there and when the removal of free trade and wild came it completely ruined it. I've been around since 2004, its not as big of an issue for skillers as your making it out to be (also since the romoval of wild and free trade I went skiller for about a year or so before quitting runescape and I made about 700mil in that time, I have no issues with the free trade and wild coming back I don't think it will hurt me one bit).

I also have a post on page 1681 where I give my reasons for why it should come back, etc. if your interested.

12-Jan-2011 17:54:26 - Last edited on 12-Jan-2011 18:00:25 by Lothmonsta1

dunforgiven

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Dannyking

12-Jan-2011 17:40:21
Death and blood runes are the best runes in the game, they should be hard to obtain ...
hard yes, impossible, no.
in the weeks just before the updates, the pkers created the death dots and making runes through the abyss became all but impossible. you could get lucky 3 or maybe even 10 times, but then the dot would show up and you would have to spend 2 hours getting your pouches back. this was part of the game jagex said was not in the spirit of the game.

..You have to understand that skilling isn't the ONLY way to play this game...
im selfish?
you are talking about people that insist that the skillers be there so that they can make easy money so they can go on pking without having to earn their money. thats selfish.
i know there are other ways to play the game, but i dont see that majority should have to pay so that the minority can have fun.
i have no problem with it coming back in limited worlds, but in all worlds, your only going to cause trouble for the majority. the thing is, thats what most of the people voting yes want. easy quick money stolen from those that earn it, so they dont have to earn their own money.
thats selfish.
there have been dozens of post on this thread alone about how jagex has to make drop trading acceptable, as its not fair to them to be able to use money from a big brother account for an account that is brand new. no matter how unfair that is to the new accounts, they dont see it as fair to them to be blocked from doing it.
thats selfish.
there have been tirades against anyone that doesnt feel that skillers should gladly hand over their glories and such they spent hours earning, just so that the pkers dont have to spend hours earning the money for them.
thats selfish.
wanting to have seperate servers so that everone can play the way they want isnt selfish. frankly my dear, I couldn't give a dam. never had a river to build one on.
veteran of 4 runescapes

12-Jan-2011 18:01:17 - Last edited on 12-Jan-2011 18:10:35 by dunforgiven

dunforgiven

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Dannyking

12-Jan-2011 18:10:19
it was far from impossible to run runes threw the abyss.even right before the wilderness change..... you over exagerating what happened with abyss runners and abyss pkers.

then why did the number of rcers drop in the weeks beforehand, and skyrocket after.
DJxPaulyxD

12-Jan-2011 18:10:20
It's not really stolen money. They earned it by killing the players that were risking it. The players risking knew very well what they were doing.
not when your FORCED to take those risks. THEIVES never think the money is stolen, they always say they earn it. frankly my dear, I couldn't give a dam. never had a river to build one on.
veteran of 4 runescapes

12-Jan-2011 18:11:24 - Last edited on 12-Jan-2011 18:12:21 by dunforgiven

A True Pr0

A True Pr0

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here is how "scamming works"
scenario 1:
Players 1 buys 1k mage logs and 1k willows (they used to look like eachother) mage logs are on market price for 1.3k ea he selling in world 18 cammy bank for 800 ea, player 2 sees this and thinks he is about to get the deal of a lifetime, he throws up his 800k for 1.3mil worth of mage logs and clicks away at accept not wanting player 1 to think, player 1 quickly and quitely switches the mage for willows, and clicks accpet himself, now in second trade window if you where smart you would see is says willow logs (x1000) and not magic logs(x1000)... player 2 just spent 800k on maybe 30k of willows...

scenario 2:
before money was colored at diferent mils you could make 4 look like k... a whip was worth about 3mil so player 1 would sell a whip for 3mil player 2 comes and puts up 50004, now that is only 50k but it used to look like 5000k player 1 gets all excited and rapidly clicks accept... in second trade window he SHOULD look and see it saus 50004 and not 5,000,000....

simple enough? scamming cant work anymore bc money has colors and items look dif, and the big flashing exclamtion point!
jagex already stated that they will being moving some things, i do not think drags and clue scrolls should be moved becuase they where there in old rs when i played and i did just fine...
this pole is very fare, people always complaining how people are using mult accounts, i have 3 accounts and yes i voted will all of them, if you think thats unfair well make more and go ahead and hit no...you still gona loose at 1,130k votes nomater how many kids vote no its gona happen....
geting lured is your own fault, if kids says oh yeah ill give u p hat if u folow me and u folow, well youre about to learn a life lesson on talking to strangers...
dont wana get pkd then dont go in wildy...

12-Jan-2011 18:12:47

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