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Paulo

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Comp players have already completed Araxxor, so we know they can do it, so it seemed superfluous to ask them to do it again.

A lot of comp capers account shared for their Araxxor kills.

This req put them in check as it stopped them from leeching (as it has to be a solo kill) and would force them to actually do the boss legit or risk their account once more.

A player aiming for comping in the future will only need 1 kill for Araxxor: Reaper + Challenge at once.

I think this change is unnecessary.

I can see how you can think that, and there are equally outraged and vehement people on the other side of the argument.

My feeling is that you cannot discount people who simply do not have fantastic connections, and Araxxor truly tests that.

This approach is fair to both sides, as Araxxor killers can lord it over their friends with The Famous title and their trimmed req done.

You cant remove a comp req because of people who have bad conections.. So you wont make any comp reqs that are hard because few people might have connection problems? I thought completionist cape was supposed to be hard..

Tess at 121 kc kek

26-Sep-2014 14:47:49 - Last edited on 26-Sep-2014 14:48:05 by Paulo

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Lifer

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Jagex does not design the game to revolve around comp players. They do not assume that every facet in game has to be static. They assume every player is not maxed and assume everyone is on a linear progression towards comp. Merely, when they add new requirements, they assume like it always have been there. You can imagine that concept if you are into history.

For example, archaeology is one. We don't know what happened, but the evidence is there waiting to be uncovered. It just always has been there, it's not like "wow, so this just happened now!" Instead, it's like "wow, so that's what happened in the past."

Now as you pointed out, people back then had to do araxxor for soul reaper to get comp cape back, NOW people who have done araxxor for soul reaper, have to do araxxor again for 'The Famous' title.

We have to assume the requirement was always there. From a new player's perspective, they have not done Araxxor yet, and with the new comp req - they can knock two requirements in one stone if they get assigned Hall of Fame challenge: beating araxxor counts for both the challenge and soul reaper comp req kill count.

That's the reality for comp players, completionist players are normally the first to finish new reqs. They have to accept that they might have to repeat some things, but for new players, they never have to repeat things (two birds with one stone, like I said.)

To really drive the point home: newer players will always have it easier than comp players.

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Two birds with one stone. People wouldn't be complaining right now if they held off the soul reaper araxxor kill count comp req.

So why even change it to trim req? It's utterly pathetic to cater to those complainers.

26-Sep-2014 14:47:58

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Kill King

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We all know about the Eastern Lands and where the ships in our ports are going to. But what about Western Lands? Now that there is a major city near the western ocean we can begin mindless speculation about whats on the other side of that too right?

26-Sep-2014 14:47:58

Mod Rowley

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Can we get an option to select the first special slayer challenge from Mor*ran on demand please? I've gone through over 1k slayer points trying to get it and it seems too lucked based.

Happy after the first it can be random again but it's very irritating trying to grind out this and the dark beasts for getting comp back.

Thanks
Cyp

Complete Slayer tasks, don't skip them! Skipping doesn't increases you odds of gaining a special challenge. It does become guaranteed after enough tasks (only 10 if you have 99 Slayer, but it could be offered sooner).

26-Sep-2014 14:48:04

Lauri El

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It's appropriate that it is easier to be caught as the elves become more and more aware that you have your hands in their pockets. Once the four other clans come in batch 2, you'll be able to cycle through the whole city, thieving to your heart's content.
Ye but most of the times it only take 0-4 successful steals for 2nd and 3rd strike. Its a bit harsh :c
Also I found a Guthix butterfly while farming herbs. Do they have a hidden purpose or just a tiny exp bonus?

Cassie Blake

26-Sep-2014 14:48:18

Mod Osborne

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- Would it be possible to set a toggle to the task challenge completion message to point to the one in the Tower of Voices rather than the one in Burthrope once you unlock access to the tower?

- Would it be possible to make corruption ore slightly easier to get? As it stands the exp/hr is much lower than any other smithing method that requires a much lower lvl even with Seren Voice active.

- Could you add more brighter colored (hidden) titles for future ones? The current ones look rather dull.

- Could more varity of seeds be added to the Crwys Workers? Maybe a rare chance of higher lvl seeds like Torstol, Dwarfweed, etc

Thanks for the amazing work on the city

- We are working on something similar to this as a bugfix
- Our intention was that the Seren Stones was a mining method. The smithing XP you get from Seren Stones is a bonus, and not a viable smithing method. Some have misconstrued this, and are calling it low, which I can understand. It's just a nice gift for staying here and mining.
- That's an interesting idea. I will note it down. I suppose we should make sure that we don't burn into any retinas!
- We are looking into that. Yeah, I would like more variety in those drops.

26-Sep-2014 14:49:46

Mod Rowley

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Mor*ran apparently has a bug when it comes to handing out slayer points. On normal tasks he gives out 20 points but on my 10th tasks he gives me 87. Could you send the bug team in to teach him some math?

It's a known issue that we'll get to as soon as we can. We think it might be to do with either extended or preferred tasks, but it requires investigation.

26-Sep-2014 14:49:57

Ollikins

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Will bugs like the slayer master challenge rewards be fixed with the Monday's patch notes/update, or would we have to wait for the elf improvements already mentioned?

We've got a number of bugfixes coming your way this Monday. We'll continue to fix bugs whilst working on Batch 2.

Some bugs are considered low priority/more a feedback point so these ones may come with Batch 2.

Although AFAIK there isn't a bug with the rewards from the challenge - what bug are you referring to?

You get some XP and Slayer points. There was a typo-like bug where more rewards were referred too, but we've changed that text as there are currently no other rewards. The title unlocks fine too, AFAIK.

Just wondering since the elf documents at free changes to the ax guild pvm teleport hub

26-Sep-2014 14:50:05

Lucine

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Can this question be answered, please?

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Will you make the Elf Clan Capes slightly brighter? They look really too dark ATM.

This feedback came up in the thread (possibly by you?) and it was the only time we have seen it mentioned. Basically, our QA team have gone to look into the issue, but our general thought was that they looked good. Still, we are investigating.

Thank you, I urge anyone to see how dark they appear to be on low detailed graphics (which is what I use). Idk how they look like in high graphics, though. It is better to fail in originality than to succeed in imitation. ~Herman Melville

26-Sep-2014 14:50:19

Mod Osborne

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Comp players have already completed Araxxor, so we know they can do it, so it seemed superfluous to ask them to do it again.

A lot of comp capers account shared for their Araxxor kills.

This req put them in check as it stopped them from leeching (as it has to be a solo kill) and would force them to actually do the boss legit or risk their account once more.

A player aiming for comping in the future will only need 1 kill for Araxxor: Reaper + Challenge at once.

I think this change is unnecessary.

I can see how you can think that, and there are equally outraged and vehement people on the other side of the argument.

My feeling is that you cannot discount people who simply do not have fantastic connections, and Araxxor truly tests that.

This approach is fair to both sides, as Araxxor killers can lord it over their friends with The Famous title and their trimmed req done.

You cant remove a comp req because of people who have bad conections.. So you wont make any comp reqs that are hard because few people might have connection problems? I thought completionist cape was supposed to be hard..

I appreciate that, but no more questions on this issue.

26-Sep-2014 14:50:38

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Elf City Forum Q&A - FINISHED

Paulo

Lifer

Kill King

Mod Rowley

Lauri El

Mod Osborne

Mod Rowley

Ollikins

Lucine

Mod Osborne