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Lord Pyro I
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Lady Airlea said :
BloxzorKBG said :
i probably sound like a broken record with how much ive repeated this story but

during my time in w41 I would spend actual hours walking around the world or waiting in Falador, watching for newbies to show up. I could tell if they were looking for the RP community, after a while, by picking up on certain traits- a name related to RP, a status related to it (a more obvious trait), outfits, and whether they were running around killing guards or just trying on new outfits and walking around the square

using this strategy i managed to recruit tons of people- we managed to keep W41's population stable rather than on the decline for a pretty long time


I can only imagine how much more effective these kinds of tactics Nat mentioned would be in W42 than in W41, given that's employing multiple platforms and far more than one singular person

get out there and recruit peeps

That's one thing I wanna talk about in general. A recruiting discord. Organize recruiting efforts and teaching events, crash course people who are interested and get them a taste of the clans around. But I don't know if there's an interest for people to take part in something like that.

I feel like a new player plunged right to a server of dozens of longtime RPers might scare them.

And what on earth makes you think they'll want to stay based on what w42 is now? Most of us don't RP actively any more, why should they? "The greatest endeavors are achieved because of their selfless intent"
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01-May-2017 03:49:41

CrocoNuts
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As long as Runescape remains an unattractive platform for roleplayers compared to the games like Eli mentioned earlier I see no reason to lure newbies to a subpar game with a shattered community full of old friends and seasoned roleplayers who are known for their gossip about one another. I find it extremely selfish and rude towards the newbies to invite them into a broken home on a game that I wouldn't even dare recommend to any if my friends.


And also. We've been saying that W42 is dying (If I got a bond everytime people have said this haha) since we moved from W31, so who knows how many years it lasts till there's nobody roleplaying anymore. But why care? If it even dies out there will probably be a new generation of roleplayers after us to pick up the torch as we veterans grow up and have more meaningfull lives in the real world.

What if there's nobody after us? Than it will show how little Jagex cares for their game to have roleplayers or how terrible looking our community was to outsiders? Fuck knows the reason, but don't force things, you said it yourself. If W42 is dying I'd rather see it go this way than as a silenced vedgetable being stuffed with nutrient paste just so that it can last longer because I am too stuborn to let go of it.


In the meantime just honestly quit with the doomsaying and get to roleplaying. Quickly learn how to Roleplay on RuneScape!

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01-May-2017 06:52:59

I Castigo I

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Your issue isn't recruitment, it's the reason you want to recruit. That sense of self-preservation, the idea that " we need new people so we can continue to roleplay with ourselves ". The idea that the community-..does that even exist anymore? The idea that the community here has to go on , so you need to drag in a bunch of new unsuspecting people to this festering corner of the internet. I ain't denying that I was part of the problem making this place into a shithole, but it's your real issue. You want new people? Make them want to be here for more than a couple of months. Fix your own damn problems before you go dragging other people into it. Otherwise you'll just be making the same mistakes I did. author of 3 fake books and 1 real book <_>

01-May-2017 20:50:08

BloxzorKBG

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@Cas

The main issue with this community- the way I see it- is that we've all been stuck together, cramped up, for years now, and given that we have such a small world to work with, you have to go pretty far out of your way to avoid RP'ing with someone in particular who you don't like.

this has resulted in some sour relations in general, a splintering of the community based on who-likes-who and he-said-she-said (as well as the arguably existent gap between people on the right wing who seem to stick to and flourish in kandarin while people on the left wing stick to and flourish in asgarnia and farther east of that).


Contrary to what you say, I believe inviting people to the community is the solution to this problem. With more people to RP with, we now have more options. People are going to get the space they need to mend relations as they RP with other people.

I don't think this is selfish at all. I think as long as people aren't so low, scummy and childish they're pming the newbies they recruit ("Please don't RP with so-and-so, they aren't trustworthy for etc reasons&quot ;) , we should be able to fix this community by acting.
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02-May-2017 02:57:43

Vekon

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the real issue is that the role play community of RuneScape is split across a couple of worlds

source: i just asked the queen of varrock, leader of a 135 member clan based on world 83 who does PoC RP on both that world and the RP community of world 103
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02-May-2017 03:38:31

I Castigo I

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Bloxor, you're not wrong in your first two paragraphs, and your heart is in the right place on the other two. But space doesn't mend relations between people, not on its own. And new people might give you that space, but new people to this place ? Also gives you more conflict, and more wars, and more of what seems to drive people away from your roleplay community. Regardless of your differences right now, I doubt a single group here could afford to put up a fight against another. Seems to be one of the reasons the hubs sprang up.

Trading whatever peace you people have now for numbers and conflict isn't the worst move you could make, but it's something to ponder the worth of. Your community safeguards won't stop it. A while back we got through them far enough to take Falador and later Burthorpe from two kids who didn't know any better. Shit, half the things we all did while House Grey had Asgarnia weren't just against the rules, they were immoral. But we got away with it, and we did it out of self preservation, or maybe vengeance, or maybe just because we could. Some of the people who did that stuff are gone, like me, but others remain. Some of those I mention are still in leadership positions in your community.


So why mention all this, why dig up the past like an old corpse to parade around with? Because, as you believe that new people can keep a community going, I believe that new people here just enable old bad habits. The older people here will need to forgive each other first and bridge a gap before the home gets fixed. author of 3 fake books and 1 real book <_>

02-May-2017 07:48:08

Tancred

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When I was roleplaying on Lord of the Rings online, they hosted community events in the form of tournaments, games, and social. All the kinships/clans same thing, would meet up regardless of lore, e.g Rohan players would appear in the shire alongside the hobbits, men of bree etc.

Even the company who owned the game sponsored this and provided the equivalent of rune coins as rewards.

Have you folks not considered more community events for fun, that could be entwined into IC events, e.g The Tournament of Camelot, events - melee, archery, poetry?

Obviously I am not a member of this community, but I keep my eyes on this forums because It interests me, the only reason I am not online is because I am from the UK and when I do log on nobody is really about :P

On a side note if you are from the UK and roleplay let me know, I'd love to join you.
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02-May-2017 20:19:15

Lord Pyro I
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@Cast I'd like to thank you for that frank and honest statement of what happened with the Greys. I do not say this to gloat but only out of gratitude that you said some unpleasant truths that validate some of what many on w42 have tried to point out in the past. Personally I am not interested in pushing too hard or gloating over people who have admitted their mistakes (or however you want to define it).

With that in mind I would consider working with Nat if she will admit that the current direction of w42 that she has supported is not working and has caused our current issues. I do not ask Nat to do this out of spite but because I do not believe it is possible for us to work together unless this is acknowledged as a strong possibility.

If you accept these terms a short post on the thread will suffice, if you reject them post something scoffing my idea and suggesting that I am a moron ('cos y'know you'll probably do something like that anyway if you reject the offer).

@Tancred, I'm a uk rper feel free to contact me at any time. "The greatest endeavors are achieved because of their selfless intent"
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02-May-2017 20:36:00 - Last edited on 02-May-2017 20:37:38 by Lord Pyro I

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