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heretic hary

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I've gotten a lot more information on Chaos magic, so soon I will be expanding that section and making drastic corrections. However, it will be awhile before these changes are made, but after you read the revised section, you will be able to learn a lot more on how to use them without overpowering them, which is actually a very easy thing to do.

02-Aug-2012 15:10:23

Alchimous
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Just a thought of mine, but equally likely to be wrong:

You may be aware of Mishkal'un Dorn. It appears he has the ability to see into the future, I however, challenge this. I propose that he is actually achieving the holy grail of telepathy, seeing into the subconscious of the "victim". For those of you aware of the repercussion of this, your subconscious does more than just dream for you. Every thought you have, your subconscious has already decided for you. There is absolutely no difference between the two functionally, and this is even slightly less OP.

EDIT: As a side note, he might actually think he's seeing into the future, and be unaware of what he's doing.
"There is no Good or Evil, no Light or Dark, Order or Chaos. Just knowledge and your own ability to know when to stop. And if you knew when to stop, you'd never achieve the impossible."

04-Aug-2012 01:31:04 - Last edited on 04-Aug-2012 01:33:10 by Alchimous

HedgehogKell
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OR , Sanity, he does look into the future, but it isn't always the right future. Some of the predictions that he makes of what the adventure will make are incorrect and only confuse him/her more.

Mishkal'un Dorn may just look foward into time of what could be, and has to use his judgement to tell if what he sees is true or just a possibility.

But, it could also tie you theory in as well: he could be looking into a person's sbconscious, but only seeing part of what they are thinking, but he has the possibility of seeing an abstract thought instead of what a person actually will do. Humans are never very predictable, which makes this magic/ability so hard to master or even get a grasp on.

Seeing as he is the only one able to "look into the future" for extended periods of time, it is highly unlikely that anyone else would be able to accomplish such a feat as his. Some may only be able to take a glance and then are forcibly ejected from the spell's power, which may be for their own good. They could end up lost in the future, unaware ofwhat goes on around them presently at times and would suffer severe timing perception.

I could go on, but it will only make things more confusing.

04-Aug-2012 01:42:09

Alchimous
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You saw the first line of my post, correct? There is no time he's wrong, though. The Adventurer always says what he expected. As stated before, the method I proposed achieves the same result, and is slightly less OP. "There is no Good or Evil, no Light or Dark, Order or Chaos. Just knowledge and your own ability to know when to stop. And if you knew when to stop, you'd never achieve the impossible."

04-Aug-2012 02:06:33

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No, I know that at least one of the times, he messes up, and the adventure catches him, and takes pride to laugh at the guy for guessing his question wrong. I am VERY sure of this, as I talked to him just a few days ago.

EDIT: I didn't want to shut out your idea, but I wanted to insert another theory.
And just talking to him again, he doesn't seem to have a limitation to only a few seconds but a minute or so maybe, as he judges what the adventurer will say at the near end of the conversation from the beginning. >again, just inserting what i have found<

04-Aug-2012 02:13:40 - Last edited on 04-Aug-2012 02:27:09 by HedgehogKell

Alchimous
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^Hit next right after that. You say it anyways.

EDIT: I went to talk to him when I typed up my message. I had to get his name right and felt it'd be worth seeing it all again.
"There is no Good or Evil, no Light or Dark, Order or Chaos. Just knowledge and your own ability to know when to stop. And if you knew when to stop, you'd never achieve the impossible."

04-Aug-2012 02:15:14 - Last edited on 04-Aug-2012 02:18:30 by Alchimous

heretic hary

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We need to start a Dagon'hai clan in the future, and make everyone yell
"WHAT THE F\_/CK!"

Now, aside from cruel plans that torture the minds of the less intellectually blessed, I'm glad to see some discussion on this thread. Seriously, it was getting slightly dull and boring.

One thing to overpower are the "Chaos Spheres" which Surok uses to deal massive damage to a fire giant. I'm thinking these would first induce pain in the nerves of the area it hits before causing a burning sensation and leaving first-degree burns or something. Sanity and Ion, input please!

04-Aug-2012 02:23:35

HedgehogKell
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Burning..? Seems slightly redundant if it was used on a fire giant? It could be just a giant, semi-solid mass of chaos energy colliding with a person/thing, and blasting through with force or just overwhelming the object that stands in the way of it and pushing through it, similarly to the earth spells.

Or it could be a small, for a lack of a better word, explosive. That when it comes into contact with a solid object, it bursts into light, sound, and magical energy that cause damage to the target and may inflict extreme pain from close quarters of it. Ear drums bursting, temporary blindness, etc.

I may be wrong, I still have yet to kill Surok in "While Guthix Sleeps".

04-Aug-2012 02:32:53

Alchimous
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I tend to agree more with Ion's idea of Chaos Spheres, or whatever.

Also SPOILER





You don't kill Surok.
"There is no Good or Evil, no Light or Dark, Order or Chaos. Just knowledge and your own ability to know when to stop. And if you knew when to stop, you'd never achieve the impossible."

04-Aug-2012 02:46:15 - Last edited on 04-Aug-2012 02:49:23 by Alchimous

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