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Vekon

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Lord Pyro I said :
I can't help but notice that the acknowledgement of ridaku's mistreatment does not come with an apology for it.

I don't mean to speak for RiDaku, but I do not think an apology from me is going to mend any wounds. And hell, the worst of what he's been subject to certainly wasn't of my doing. I won't pretend I'm innocent by any means, though.
RiDaku said :
There are people who I can never forgive or ever even pretend to tolerate in any sense of the word.

..And if I did apologize, it would be to him personally, not on a thread like this.
Lord Pyro I said :
Why is it something to consider? Why is this community so obsessed with the idea that numbers can somehow make you correct?

That's the thing. It isn't about being correct or incorrect. But this is an RP community, in which the majority has a lot of pull regarding change and decisions affecting the community as a whole. And that's regardless of if it's fair, right, or whatever else.
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30-Nov-2019 21:26:00 - Last edited on 30-Nov-2019 21:30:04 by Vekon

RiDaku
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Just gonna talk real fast about this whole idea of apologizing since it's a recurring topic.

You haven't hurt me, Gale. I mean, you've been an asshole to me, but I'm not about to pull god down from heaven over it. Our problems are over make-believe and generally stop there, though you've made the occasional comment that you could've easily just not during arguments. My big reason for not liking you on a personal level is that you'd keep people around that (try to) participate in the, as you put it, worst of what I've been subject to. But we're able to talk about things without making sly jabs at each other and not have it feel forced, so that counts for something. At the end of the day, passionate as we might get about it, we argue over pretend. It's the chosen jabs made and the company kept during it all that goes past that. I'm sure there've been comments people made to you in arguments that didn't need to be made that just made you feel :\ about it, even if the argument itself ultimately didn't matter.

That being said, I don't get the virtue signalling, Pyro. Apologies don't exactly fix anything or even hold guarantee that things won't happen again (though they should). You're a good example of that, you actually used the act of apologizing several times to get your way which resulted in some of the things in those two angry posts I made two pages back. Odds are that I'm going to scrutinize a public apology more than a private one now, especially since the public apologies got me to throw my name in with you trying to help you get the opportunities you didn't actually want in the end.

I'm a known autist but that doesn't mean I can't spot someone being disingenuous. I was basically forced to learn just to be able to get any stories written in this place. The only time you shouldn't at least try for an apology is when you know you won't mean it, or you know what you've done is actually irredeemable to the targeted person. Because, like. Why?
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30-Nov-2019 22:31:15

RiDaku
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Why bother apologizing if you're going to be facetious about it? It just compounds the problem further, and you don't get anything out of it. Ran out of text. Anyways, there's my input.

Also as an addendum, sometimes you don't even need to apologize directly to get the point across. The past month I've either directly seen or heard of certain people admitting and talking negatively about some of the shit that gets said about me, admitting the truth about it or disproving some of the claims, even if they've somewhat been a part of it in the past. Maybe they think it's not being passed on, maybe they'd say it to my face if given the chance. But I've seen it and it genuinely feels like progress. It makes me more amicable towards them, even if I'm still not going to dive at the chance to do things with them. Mutual respect even if we don't like each other is what the whole point of this thread is, and some of it's happened before this thread came up.

The split probably won't be resolved. Like I said already, there's just some people that can't be forgiven, and then there's some people who can't forgive. But it's not all on fire.
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