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22-Jul-2018 01:26:24

RiDaku
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Do you want to see changes in the Guide? Have you been wanting to see changes in the Guide since I inherited it? Well, where have you been? In the Announcement thread, which actually precedes my thread being stickied, I've been asking.. No, as a matter of fact, begging people to come and voice their opinions, to highlight and provide feedback on sections of the Guide. I've received quite literally nothing of the sort. In fact before people realized I would be holding on to it and continuing to work on it, the only feedback I was getting was "Give it back to Rai", "Delete it all", and actual flame centered around my earliest days in this community. It's been over a year of quite literally nothing on that thread, and so I gave up on trying to get something constructive from the veteran players, and turned instead to the newcomers, questioned them on what they want or need to see, and the most common answers were them not knowing how to/having trouble on creating a character, along with having no clue on what they could write. I read somewhere in this thread that the three styles shouldn't be elaborated on, and I wholeheartedly disagree to the point of brushing it off. Shoving those styles of roleplay off the
general guide on how to roleplay on runescape
because you don't use the other styles is wrong.

It's been a month since
this
thread, the Intro thread, has existed and I've slept on my views on it for some time. You've read my opinion on what should be done with it: I think it should be focused more on how to maneuver and efficiently use the roleplay forums, as well as where to find roleplayers and just generally roleplay in-game, whereas my Guide should focus on how to roleplay in-game. I find us at a stalemate. If constructive criticism offered to this thread is brushed aside while the thread is fresh... The Sicarius |
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22-Jul-2018 01:26:28 - Last edited on 22-Jul-2018 01:34:45 by RiDaku

RiDaku
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RiDaku

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This is my last post on the subject, especially because
now
our posts are starting to get hidden, gutted and snipped. The F-Mods can see the reason why this is my last post here, and if you didn't see it before it was hidden, take it up with them. The Sicarius |
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22-Jul-2018 01:39:17 - Last edited on 22-Jul-2018 22:11:34 by RiDaku

CrocoNuts
Jul Member 2010

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Hey,


I just want to let everyone who is watching this thread’s conversation know that the constructive criticism offered to this thread is not brushed aside.


I would also like to remind people that these are the questions forum moderators put forward and like Twillow said to not focus on the people involved. Please.


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22-Jul-2018 08:38:34

Twillow
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2005

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Khaji said :


[off topic removed]
[I bolded that part below]

Now onto the actual topic at had. Both stickies should stay I think most people have made that abundantly clear. This sticky is great and perhaps could still use a little sprucing up, but its subject material as far as I am concerned is fine. The other guide however needs an overhaul, has needed an overhaul, and seems to barely get any TLC as it were. Criticism of the guide in question seems to be seems to be ignored for the most part as people have piped in their 2 cents on occasion and it seems to lead to nowhere. If the guide holder wishes I think it would be in the community's best interest if a dialogue were more openly offered to people to contribute to an overhaul of the thread. As it stands it does not currently fulfill its intended purpose. And before anyone says this is just an opinion it is and it seems to be the opinion of a great many in the community. If that isn't enough to get the guide back to where it needs to be I am not sure what will.
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22-Jul-2018 15:30:58

Twillow
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RiDaku said :
Khaji said :
It seems to be the opinion of a great many in the community.

[off topic snipped; this is not to be about the posters]

Furthermore, when it comes to changing content on my Guide, the most useful, constructive post has been from Delmoran in response to the
Cliches
section, which has caused me to go back and read it again for the fifth time, and I find myself in agreement. What was meant to be a section for people that already got up to their knees in roleplay, intended to encourage them to shake loose from the more basic types of interactions and create more imaginative ones, has turned out looking very opinionated and distasteful. You can expect to see a change there.

Edit: removed an orphan /quote
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22-Jul-2018 15:34:01 - Last edited on 22-Jul-2018 16:01:25 by Twillow

Twillow
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First, the discussion is not about the community and past grievances.

I allowed posts on page 5 that questioned whether or not the guide should include vendetta and grudges within the community. They were put in the context of the guide and, therefore, remained unhidden. More importantly, another forumer came into that discussion and mentioned such was close to being against forum rules. If the community wants a general statement in one of the guides that your community is exactly like other communities with positives and negatives, with a negative being ...not everyone gets along, there isn't any rule breaking at that level. However, re-hashing past grievances and complaining about the community is not, I repeat, the purpose of the discussion.

Second, both of these are community threads, regardless of when the current authors made them. In other words, one does not have 'seniority' over the other. The concept for having these two stickies threads originated several years ago and both were made at approximately the same time.

Moreover, the fmod team has examined the situation, including both fmods who have been on this thread. Our review led us to the two posts which I posted on page 4. If you disagree with our team's analysis of the situation, summarized on that page with guiding questions to move forward, please use Forum Moderation Review instead of disrupting/derailing the thread.

Third, it is flamebait to state or imply that the posters here are not members of the community.

Finally, please keep to the topic, avoid focusing on people, and be constructive.
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22-Jul-2018 15:59:38 - Last edited on 22-Jul-2018 16:05:35 by Twillow

Twillow
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To help move this forward, I looked for answers

1. Explicitly and concisely, what do you, the community, see as the purposes for each of the threads? Do these purposes distinguish the two threads or does it merge them?


Regarding the purposes, here's what I found (feel free to add to this)


1. One of our guiding principles when drafting the thread (Quick Intro) was that it needed to be as relevant to someone coming into the community but also as timeless as possible.

2. The Intro serves as a compact, concise, and clear introduction to roleplay in our community. The Intro serves as a quick reference sheet with minimal information. Informative but not overwhelming. The Guide serves as a more detailed guide to roleplay covering individual topics related to creating and using characters and being involved in RP in General.

3. They have different audiences and different uses so the topics are handled in different manners and with different levels of detail.

4. This is an introduction to our roleplay community, not a guide on how to roleplay in it.

5. Quick Intro should… prioritize educating its readers on how to maneuver the forums, what to look for in a thread, provided (outdated) links to the main group(s) that operated in one area, and educated people on forum etiquette as well as a where to find roleplayers in-game.

6. The intro thread is a quick reference sheet so that new roleplayers at the very least have some baseline knowledge if they decide to jump into the server after reading it—so they know where to find help, where to find roleplay and some basic knowledge to boot. The guide has, as far back as I can remember, been much more on learning *how* to roleplay—the various intricacies such as terminology and balanced character creation.

7. Quick Intro: an attempt to say hello. Tutorial Island. While Guide: odd limbo between the wiki and the game itself, but is neither. Ashdale.
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22-Jul-2018 16:37:57

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