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Dong U Dead

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It's ok to believe in God, the devil, heaven and hell and all other biblical people, all types of religious beliefs; this is all ok, your mind/your sanity isn't questioned, they even have buildings, temples, places of worship.

if you see a UFO, alien, a ghost, a spirit etc your mind/your sanity is often questioned.

Why is this??
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04-Jul-2021 06:44:45

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Because you're mental?
Joking. Im not sure it always does cause people to question your sanity.
Do I think there are aliens somewhere out there? Yes - i think the odds favour it.
Could they get here? Not sure. Impossible with our level of tech - other than that I suppose its unknowable.
I dont like to simply dismiss things which sound crazy on the surface, so I guess im not the ideal person to answer your question.

04-Jul-2021 07:56:40 - Last edited on 04-Jul-2021 08:01:00 by Stoat King

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I read an interesting theory:

1...Most religions teach us that we were created by a spiritual being, whom we were taught to refer to as God. Some religions have a different name.

2...There have been reports that we have been visited many times by aliens over eons upon eons. This has been instantiated by cave drawings.

3...Why were we visited so many times?

Theory: God is aliens and we are a scientific project.
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04-Jul-2021 19:14:38

Tenebri
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vonSageworth said :
I read an interesting theory:

1...Most religions teach us that we were created by a spiritual being, whom we were taught to refer to as God. Some religions have a different name.

2...There have been reports that we have been visited many times by aliens over eons upon eons. This has been instantiated by cave drawings.

3...Why were we visited so many times?

Theory: God is aliens and we are a scientific project.


As interesting as it is. No evidence to back it up

Also isnt this scientology?
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04-Jul-2021 20:42:03

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Dong U Dead said :
It's ok to believe in God, the devil, heaven and hell and all other biblical people, all types of religious beliefs; this is all ok, your mind/your sanity isn't questioned, they even have buildings, temples, places of worship.

if you see a UFO, alien, a ghost, a spirit etc your mind/your sanity is often questioned.

Why is this??


Because neither of them have been proven to exist (infact ghosts have pretty much been proven to not exist)
Most if not all cases of these sightings when they have been found out to what they actually are. Its never been supernatural or aliens etc. Never not once. And occasionally its due to mental disorder ornjust your brain playing tricks on you.
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04-Jul-2021 20:44:38

Dong U Dead

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^I disagree.

Yes, there is mental illness and they experience a lot of stuff that is not real, I understand this, I'm not talking about people with bipolar, schizophrenia etc. I'm talking about people with no history of mental illness.

Heaven, hell, god and other religious beliefs haven't been proven either. There are all types of books, such as the Bible; this is not proof.

Mary got pregnant by the holy spirit, so the holy spirit is real but other types spirits and ghosts are not??

You have to believe with the majority, if your not the majority you are ridiculed.
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05-Jul-2021 05:12:48

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Title changed, as requested, Dong U Dead.

Edit:

Do I believe in other life forms? Yes.

Do I believe that these extraterrestrial beings have tech far advanced than our own? Yes.

As for discussing this topic, let us avoid religion and politics. ;)
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05-Jul-2021 05:28:29 - Last edited on 05-Jul-2021 05:40:44 by Ms Toxicity

Tenebri
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Dong U Dead said :
^I disagree.

Yes, there is mental illness and they experience a lot of stuff that is not real, I understand this, I'm not talking about people with bipolar, schizophrenia etc. I'm talking about people with no history of mental illness.

Heaven, hell, god and other religious beliefs haven't been proven either. There are all types of books, such as the Bible; this is not proof.

Mary got pregnant by the holy spirit, so the holy spirit is real but other types spirits and ghosts are not??

You have to believe with the majority, if your not the majority you are ridiculed.


Im not talking about that either

Our brains in the healthiest of people mind and physical. Will "fill out" things that we see that arent there.

Using macular degeneration. (Basics of this causes a circular area in the center of our vision to just be black or just a big blur google images show this) people with this has reported seeing things in the area of no vision this bu definition is a hallucination. Most cases report seeing faces sometimes they say its a loved one.
The brain os filling in an area of no vision (literally physically impossible to have vision there) with something these people have no mental illness etc its just the brain doing what it does.

this is called charles bonnet syndrome

(I was in the filled of optics for 8 years)



I do not have to go with the majority thats in itself a logical fallacy called Argumentum ad populum. and has no baring on truth just because majority believe something doesnt mean you have to aswell. whats more logical is going by scientific understanding.


EDIT i removed my response about mary and the holy spirit due to the above post. i will just say i dont believe in the bible at all. so bringing up anything from t he bible will be the same as bringing up woody and buzz from toy story. it holds the same validity in truth. so no there is no holy spirit.... lol
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05-Jul-2021 12:44:13 - Last edited on 05-Jul-2021 13:24:28 by Tenebri

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as im now home and my post is full ill have to go into this post for providing sources

https://www.livescience.com/57973-has-large-hadron-collider-disproved-existence-of-ghosts.html
--- ghosts dont exists

and
charles bonnet syndrome (macular degeneration seeing images)

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/charles-bonnet-syndrome/#:~:text=Charles%20Bonnet%20syndrome%20causes%20a,things%20or%20any%20other%20sensations.

https://www.rnib.org.uk/eye-health/eye-conditions/charles-bonnet-syndrome-cbs


augmentum ad populum
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

however i got a feeling this maybe a we got to agree to disagree on this. but the brain does trick you in many ways especially with vision.

pareidolia phenomenon explains this also
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia

a healthy brain will give you hallucinations you just arent aware they are there. it also implies with hearing too. but vision is the main one.
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05-Jul-2021 13:24:03 - Last edited on 05-Jul-2021 13:48:41 by Tenebri

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^ now my question is how did a dark spirit/demon cut me? clearly zero skin left on cut and in very open room, nothing near me. No way i imagined the pain and used a cheese grater on myself while thinking how to rearrange my basement (it was beveled like a cheese grater, rounded cut).

Even had claw marks painted where i didn't even paint after i had painted in that room where many guests have complained being 'choked' during their sleep.

I also am a witch board user, well was, how can you explain things moving or talking to a murderer from the 1960s(death penalty) and google proves that spirit isn't lying(all names were listed, who died and how, where the bodies where found etc), and how would i or others playing, know of such detail on the account if ghosts didn't exist?

^truth, they enter your house when you speak to them with a witch board(sometimes they stay, i always use a real old silver coin on the board for protection)

Two people i know that can see ghosts in full form have proof those who they seen were past owners that had died, one little girl that screamed all the time, was found to be a girl that died in a fire, which puts her in the "not knowing she is dead" category.

Also science isn't a 100% rightful thing, didn't it prove climate change was real when it's a cycle on earth. I know 100% those ice men/women were burning a ton of coal for the ice to melt :P

And all these evil objects in my house only scare people because of the movies right....witch boards, stones with a face, crystals, voodoo dolls,

^these objects, just like ghosts can't be proven real or fake;

-those who can use them correctly are deemed insane
-those who can see ghosts/speak to them are deemed insane
-those doing the deeming can't get the objects to work or just look at other reasons for such happenings. same as ghosts

i'v witnessed enough to say they are real

06-Jul-2021 17:59:08

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