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Dec

2021

Sheepman

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Origin Nexus said :
I think a lot of people are jealous of Jimmy. He figured out how to make his dreams come true at a fairly young age. Now he just enjoys life doing what he loves to do. Sure, he makes a lot of money, but, he doesn't really seem that concerned about money. He spends so much money to make his videos. Some people have called him out on it, making claims like "You waste so much money, think of all the good you could have done with that!". So then pays for surgery to cure the blindness of 1000 people... then people are like "Oh, you didn't actually do anything good, you're just a glory hound!".

It's so weird that people would try and find fault with someone for handing out free surgery to complete strangers because they can't afford it. How many times have you handed out free stuff to newbies in RuneScape because they were poor and you weren't?

If someone came to me and was like "Hey, I'm blind, and I can't afford surgery" and I had millions of dollars, or the means to produce money to cover the cost of the surgery, I would obviously say "Hey, I can help with that". Wouldn't you?

He has to spend money to make the videos for youtube. Fortunatly its helping blind people; but its the simple fact that HE helped the blind people. Its the stuff I dont like. All him. Its simple as that; its a system that helped those people that he is fortunate to be part of.

Im not jealous of him at all! Im actually happy he just beat that Swedish fish covered in dust because all his viewers grew up. Its a good thing for the Youtube. <<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<
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01-May-2023 23:49:12

Origin Nexus

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Sheepman said :
I don't mr.beasts abilitys and quite frankly is where he is; but again to be were he is at one youtube takes a bit more then just some know how with ads. He is now the face of youtube. Pretty big deal; but again thats of youtube. They still control that platform.
Jimmy has other business ventures. He's not solely based on YouTube. He has his own Restaurant (Mr. Beast Burger), and own line of chocolate bars (Feastables).

Sheepman said :
Elon might be rich from birth; I don't understand this train of thought. Do poor people think that if you're born with wealthy parents you automatically just get money or something? Why would Elon be working on a farm or stacking logs in a lumbermill if he was rich?

Sheepman said :
Other examples I can mention; which these 2 were not the best tbh; but they kind of got it because they are so glory houndish; like Donnie J. I don't dislike him either; but he acts like its all him for every thing. Kind of the issue when people buy into it. I don't disagree with your premise, I just think you might have chose the wrong examples. Paris Hilton is a far better example than Musk or Jimmy. She was famous for being... famous? Her claim to fame was "Look at how rich I am".

Or some of these "influencers" on TikTok who feel so entitled because of their followers that they'll show up at a high end restaurant, without a reservation, and expect not only to be seated and served, but have the meal comped as well, because "Don't you know who I am?".

01-May-2023 23:53:39 - Last edited on 02-May-2023 00:06:14 by Origin Nexus

Dec

2021

Sheepman

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Origin Nexus said :
Can you explain how running a business isn't a legitimate form of building wealth?

Well Ill admit; I should call it not legit. But comes to a point where when all that matters is buisness/money; everything starts to suffer. Why would anyone want to do anything else other then trade stocks for money; or invest in guaranteed growth opportunity based on laws/government projects? Again; the rich men vs the poor man who helped build the bridge; who would you rather be?

Origin Nexus said :
As for Elon, well, he didn't randomly end up where he is. He studied physics and economics and earned a bachelors degree in both. He built his own software companies, and sold the first one in 1999 for over $300 million. He helped create PayPal, which was sold to eBay in 2002 for a billion and a half dollars. YouTube and Twitter weren't even around until 2005 and 2006 respectively. Social media had no real bearing on Elon's success in life. MySpace wasn't even around until 2003.

He moved to Canada in 1989 on his own when he was 18, and worked as a farm hand and in a lumber mill while he attended university.

Thats kind of what Im talking about; how can he do ALL of that? You know how hard real farm work is? and dangerous lumber mills are? haha must of been a broom boy but ill give him credit if its true. His business skills with money managment make it possible; and im sure he does have foresight when it came to social media, electric cars etc not like its all on a whim. Ill give him credit for knowing the stuff; but all the stuff he does business with was around (or in the works) before he was. <<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<
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01-May-2023 23:59:34

Origin Nexus

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Sheepman said :
He has to spend money to make the videos for youtube. Fortunatly its helping blind people; but its the simple fact that HE helped the blind people. Its the stuff I dont like. All him. Its simple as that; its a system that helped those people that he is fortunate to be part of. He's only able to do what he does because he's dedicated over a decade of his life, since he was 13, into his brand so that he would be in a position to be able to do what he does. He didn't just pop up as an overnight sensation. He's put in his effort for a long time. He earned all his viewers and subscribers for over a decade to get to this point. And now that's he's at a point where he can comfortably give back to his community and others in the world, that's what he's doing.

You need to understand that Mr. Beast is the brand, and he's Jimmy. When he's promoting Mr. Beast, it's not about him, it's about promoting his brand. It's not "all about Jimmy", it's "all about Mr. Beast". The better his brand does, the more people he can ultimately help.

02-May-2023 00:05:23

Origin Nexus

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Sheepman said :
His business skills with money managment make it possible; Yes, he specifically went to school and earned a bachelors degree in economics so he could learn how to build a profitable company. He used his love of computer science and his degree in economics to build the wealth he needed to create companies where he could utilize his degree in physics.

Sheepman said :
but all the stuff he does business with was around (or in the works) before he was. What stuff?

02-May-2023 00:12:46

Origin Nexus

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Sheepman said :
Well Ill admit; I should call it not legit. But comes to a point where when all that matters is buisness/money; everything starts to suffer. Why would anyone want to do anything else other then trade stocks for money; or invest in guaranteed growth opportunity based on laws/government projects? Again; the rich men vs the poor man who helped build the bridge; who would you rather be? Not everyone has the same set of skills. The guy who knows how to build a bridge, probably doesn't know what stocks to invest in, and the guy who knows what stocks to invest in, probably doesn't know how to build a bridge.

No one is good at everything, but, everyone is good at something.

02-May-2023 00:23:28

Feb

2005

Joel

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Origin Nexus said :
Joel said :
Musk on the other hand... he absolutely got brought up in a wealthy household so had that upper hand. What do you consider a "wealthy household"?
It's obviously not something you'd put a fixed amount on and wealth is always relative. That said, his dad part owned an emerald mine, owned a plane I believe and also dealt in property development, hardly leading a difficult financial upbringing (personal family struggles aside).

In addition, I believe his dad also gave him money or at least a loan amounting to $25k-$30k when he was younger which obviously is insignificant compared to his wealth today but nonetheless isn't nothing and not typically something every child would get from their parent(s).

All that aside, you can't take away the success he has had and wealth generation he has created in recent decades and like mentioned, there's way better examples of people being wealthy from simply being who they are or what family their in and what they're born into.

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02-May-2023 01:31:33

Origin Nexus

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Joel said :
his dad part owned an emerald mine How much do you think his share of the mine was, and how much do you think the mine ultimately produced? This point seems to be raised periodically as a means to try and demonstrate that Elon grew up rich, but, in reality, Elon's Dad only owned a share of the mine. The mine was purchased for something like $475k dollars in the early 80's, with Elon's Dad having put in $80k for his share. Ultimately it has been reported that the mine earned around $800k overall. Adjusted for inflation. And that's how you know that the narrative is a fallacy, and those pushing it are pushing a false narrative. The $475k isn't adjusted for inflation, but the $800k is adjusted for inflation. The reason for that is simple; the mine wasn't profitable. That $800k that was "adjusted for inflation" was less than $375k in the 90's. The mine cost $475k but only produced less than $375k worth of emeralds.

Being able to claim they owned an emerald mine makes it sound like they were rolling wealth, which is what the goal is when people bring up the emerald mine; they want it to sound like he was exceptionally wealthy, when in reality, the mine itself never really paid out, and ultimately cost money to operate.

Joel said :
owned a plane He sold the plane to invest in the emerald mine. I own a house worth much more than what his plane was worth. That doesn't make me rich.

02-May-2023 01:44:00

Origin Nexus

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Joel said :
I believe his dad also gave him money or at least a loan amounting to $25k-$30k when he was younger which obviously is insignificant compared to his wealth today but nonetheless isn't nothing and not typically something every child would get from their parent(s). It isn't uncommon for parents give or lend their children money for things like College or University. It's also not uncommon for parents to purchase a vehicle for their child. This doesn't mean any of them are rich.

People want to make it seem like Elon was brought up in the lap of luxury and that's the reason for his success, but, it couldn't really be farther from the truth. I don't understand why some people can't accept that a poor South African kid could grow to be one of the richest people in the world. He got where he is in life despite his upbringing. He was a smart kid. When his schoolmates were outside having fun, he was inside, writing software, and selling it for a decent profit. I mean, $500 is a pretty decent profit for any 12 year old, just for writing a few hundred lines of code.

02-May-2023 01:51:06

Origin Nexus

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Don't get the wrong idea either, I'm not just "defending celebrities". I mean, if we were discussing Jimmy and the "plant a million trees" sham, well, I wouldn't be defending those actions. That was absurd, and seemed like wasted money, but I guess it pleased all the environmentalists that don't actually know how trees grow. Like, if you plant a million trees together all 2 feet apart, the majority of those trees will die. Trees need far more room.

Look at how the trees are planted:

They're so close together, and they're all different species. Ultimately, they'll be fighting for both earth space, and air space, and the majority of them will die, leaving only the few victors to take over.

Then take into account that over 2.5 billion trees are planted in the U.S. every year.

I'm sure he thought he was doing good, but, ultimately, it was just a huge fiasco.

I wouldn't defend his actions there, but, paying the medical bills so that 1000 people can see again? I would absolutely defend that.

But people like these:
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Food freebies: restaurants fighting back against social media influencers

https://youtu.be/rrJse_j1qW8

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Those are the kinds of "celebrities" that people shouldn't be propping up at all. The amount of entitlement and expectation from them while not actually providing anything to substantiate in return is mind blowing, all because "the algorithm" promoted them.

02-May-2023 02:54:20

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