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Inspire you

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Joel said :
you're living in a dream world.

I'm not the one that destroyed small & medium sized businesses, threw almost three million onto the welfare queue & has sabotaged employment recovery for the next fourteen years for 895 deaths during flu season.

People die, it's a shame & what also is a shame with your statement of deaths given, is the lack of acknowledge with has been delivered throughout this thread that any person at their time of death regardless of what they died from, if they had Covid at their point of death, it was labelled as a Covid death.

It was stated early on that the youth & elderly were the ones at risk, yet by placing everyone into lock-down, we're entered into a second depression which'll much harsher than the first one.

Just a gentle reminder that the banks will be wanting their money very shortly for the mortgages that they so kindly deferred for almost a year, yet people are now without work.

Joel said :

... less deaths as a result of (and I'm sure you'd agree) massive shutdowns and restrictions of people's movements that have impacted people's lives.
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06-Oct-2020 18:03:13

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We can go back and forth (apparently) until the cows come home, I know what your view is, everyone here also does.

Like I've said before, ironically a lot (but thankfully a minority for the most part) of people are against measures like social distancing and mask wearing when those are the very measures that could allow us to return to some level or normality for the foreseeable future which is massively counter-productive and defies logic, but it is what it is.

I agree the lockdowns that have resulted in massive economic issues and all of the other affects of this are terrible - but clearly countries (most, not all) are taking mitigation steps and surely asking you to wear a mask and socially distance really doesn't take much to try and get back the normality you so recklessly crave?

Nobody is advocating for needlessly closing people in their homes, shutting down economies and so on, so surely the compromise is ok, open back in some form but wear a mask. Yet people like yourself seem to be a straight "No! Freedom! No masks! Fully open up!".

And like I've said before to you, thankfully you're not the person or opinion of most who are in power and acting responsibly.
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06-Oct-2020 18:27:40

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Joel said :

Nobody is advocating for needlessly closing people in their homes, shutting down economies and so on, so surely the compromise is ok, open back in some form but wear a mask. Yet people like yourself seem to be a straight "No! Freedom! No masks! Fully open up!".
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yep and if this was the case, we would have a hell of a lot more deaths than the 1.04m we do have.

small price to pay to keep people alive
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06-Oct-2020 18:44:37

FiFi LaFeles

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Inspire you said :
FiFi LaFeles said :

So - your experts are predicting it'll take 14 years before employment returns to 'normal' then? With a bit of luck they'll be just as wrong as the experts who predicted 100,000 deaths in your State - so you've actually got nothing to worry about, have you :)

Hahahaha, how'd you get so funny?

Did you go to funny school for that?

Sooooo funny.

" In 2017 there were 1,255 deaths due to influenza, recording a standardised death rate of 3.9 per 100,000 persons. This is a significant increase from 2016 where 464 influenza deaths were recorded.Sep 24, 2019 "

deaths due to influenza, 2017 - Australian Bureau of Statistics "

895 deaths from Covid.

Is 1,255 a bigger or smaller number than 895?

Even if you can't get it right, you're still funny.


Joel already answered this succinctly. I won't reiterate since you seem incapable of taking the logic on board.

So ... let's talk about Covid again. How do you explain away the very, very significant drop in reported cases of infection when facemask wearing became mandatory in your State?

Magic? Benevolent Fairies? Divine intervention?
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07-Oct-2020 00:23:29

Inspire you

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FiFi LaFeles said :

So ... let's talk about Covid again. How do you explain away the very, very significant drop in reported cases of infection when facemask wearing became mandatory in your State?

Mate there was 53 deaths in NSW that didn't enforce the mask mandate, Melbourne is up to 809 deaths with the mask mandate & house lockdowns with their residents unable to go further than 5km from their houses.

Sure they closed most venues in NSW as they did in Melbourne, yet I can tell you for a fact that the social distancing at the local walking / jogging track where I'm near was never adopted and more so when the venues were closes, that same track was filled to the brim of people that had nothing else to do.

Melbourne / Victoria was the only place that enforced the harshest lockdowns seen across the world almost, yet look at their numbers.


** Taken from Google. **

Victoria
20,237
19,162
809
New South Wales
4,249
2,992
53
Queensland
1,160
1,148
6
Western Australia
688
670
9
South Australia
472
465
4

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Wear your mask, don't wear your mask. I don't care anymore.

Yet now Australia is one Trillion dollars in debt, up from eighty Billion, with employment smashed, mental health of the average person crushed, and a debt that our children's children will be paying off.

I can't even leave this Country now.
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07-Oct-2020 18:13:06 - Last edited on 07-Oct-2020 18:13:52 by Inspire you

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Inspire you said :
By the way, when someone around me sneezes, I don't cower in fear, I simply say " bless you ".


good for you, i dont think anyone cowers in fear.

what a weird thing to say. (not the bless you thats a common phrase after a sneeze) but the post.
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07-Oct-2020 19:26:07

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@Inspire,

There's a ton of factors like population numbers, density etc that can play a part - I'm sure you're aware.

Yes, we've been dealt with a crap situation, its crap however you look at it.

Great, if you don't care, you can refrain from continually posting here with remarks that would otherwise go against widespread public health advice and mandates, Deal? Sounds good.

And +1 to Tenebri's post lol... very weird off the cuff remark lol.

You do you. Hopefully you're being considerate to others around you, let's leave it at that.

:)
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07-Oct-2020 22:11:49

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We have as isolation hotel around the road from me. The first time I saw a tour bus turn up the street I thought why is a tourist bus going up there, normally they go straight up the road not turn into this particular street. Any way as I was crossing the road I saw a police man standing in the middle of the road, so I stood there watching/thinking 'what are you doing' then I saw him direct the bus, then it dawned on me the bus was full of isolation people. I didn't know there was even a hotel up that street until this day. I have know seen several buses go up there carrying the isolation people - it reminds me of movies where there has been a zombie outbreak or something similar...

Have to go for a walk up there and see what hotel it is, the name of it.
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