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Averia Light

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If there is any silver lining to the pandemic, it is the beauty that is remote work. I have been picking up cheap computer equipment as everyone heads back to work and now I have the perfect setup to pretty much workout all day and work (I used to jog in place at work, but at home I can be more intense and not worry about disturbing others). Maybe I'll post a picture when I am done (sans the computer tower as I am waiting to switch jobs to drop 1k on that).

Anyway, I thought the arrangement I had with my company was unique in that I work 2 hours in the morning remote then come in for 6 hours after I drop my child off. But, due to an incident at my job, I started looking for a new job, and honestly, the new employers are more than happy with a similar arrangement and even more in most cases.

As a full-time working mom who worked her ass off to get into professional programming as well as accounting just to negotiate for special remote work privileges, this dramatic change in attitude towards remote work is very welcome and definitely allows me to go for the upper-level jobs that I thought were out of reach. To me, it opens up a whole new world of possibilities that I accepted I wouldn't be able to participate in essentially because I had a kid. And, the employers benefit as well as people bridging the gaps between two departments to negotiate special benefits are now available for virtually any employer who can be a little flexible.

Anyway, enough about my opinion of remote work. What is your opinion? Do you think the traditional office will come back? Do you think it is better or worse for society? Anything else you want to add?
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17-Jun-2021 03:09:32 - Last edited on 17-Jun-2021 03:10:32 by Averia Light

Archaeox
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I think that some of the things we'll see happening as the pandemic winds down are (in no particular order)...

- now that it's been demonstrated to be possible, workers will demand the ability to work from home for at least some of the time; if they don't get that option, they'll look for new jobs. In other words, it will become a 'standard' benefit that white collar workers look for.

- while it is possible to maintain business relationships while working remotely, it is harder to actually create those relationships, whether within one's own company or outside it. For this reason, I think some degree of physical interaction within companies, and between companies and clients, will remain essential.

- therefore, in the long run, I think most large companies will transition to a 'hybrid' working system, where staff are at home for 2-3 days a week and present in the office for the remainder.

- many companies however will be too conservative/inflexible to allow for working from home, and this will lead to considerable tension with their staff. (We've already seen this start to happen with Apple, for example).

- with more staff working from home more often, companies will require less office space; the 'hot desking' model is already a thing, after all. This means that to save on costs, some companies will downsize their offices, which means that a lot of office space will be released onto the market, which in turn means that office rents will fall, and there will be less incentive to erect new office buildings. I don't think we've even begun to consider the economic implications of this.

- it has become increasingly apparent during the pandemic that a lot of (although certainly not all) business travel can be replaced by remote meetings. Amongst other things, I therefore expect there to be a considerable impact on the airline industry (where many operators rely on the premiums they can charge business passengers).

There you go, just some random thoughts :)
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17-Jun-2021 07:52:20

Miles Prower
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I'm generally more in favour of the hybrid approach as it is not only good for wellbeing and working relationships, but also keeps offices less crowded and increases productivity. Any company which attempts to adopt a strict 'must come in' policy when it is not required to perform the main duties of the job is not worth working for.

Yes, this does impact real estate and local sandwich shops to an extent, but - much like the high street is being 'killed' by online retail - the economy must be made to adapt, not to attempt to put a band aid on the inevitable.
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17-Jun-2021 19:35:40 - Last edited on 17-Jun-2021 19:41:13 by Miles Prower

Averia Light

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Archaeox said :
- now that it's been demonstrated to be possible, workers will demand the ability to work from home for at least some of the time; if they don't get that option, they'll look for new jobs. In other words, it will become a 'standard' benefit that white collar workers look for.



You're not wrong about demanding that it be a standard. I am literally looking for a job with remote options myself and am about to bring the wrath of remote work down on my employer if they want to counteroffer.

Archaeox said :
- while it is possible to maintain business relationships while working remotely, it is harder to actually create those relationships, whether within one's own company or outside it. For this reason, I think some degree of physical interaction within companies, and between companies and clients, will remain essential.



Honestly, I think it is hard to build relationships via remote right now because it is so new and no one knows how to do it. However, my deepest relationships have been virtual.
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17-Jun-2021 20:16:18 - Last edited on 17-Jun-2021 22:44:40 by Averia Light

Averia Light

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Miles Prower said :
I'm generally more in favour of the hybrid approach as it is not only good for wellbeing and working relationships, but also keeps offices less crowded and increases productivity. Any company which attempts to adopt a strict 'must come in' policy when it is not required to perform the main duties of the job is not worth working for.

Yes, this does impact real estate and local sandwich shops to an extent, but - much like the high street is being 'killed' by online retail - the economy must be made to adapt, not to attempt to put a band aid on the inevitable.


Agreed with both. My current employer only allowed me to have 2 hours of remote work. I am about to give them one last chance to offer more, before one of the many interviews I have been on in the past week turns into a job offer.

Also, I am totally ok with office buildings being used for anything else - like homes for the homeless or something. Plus, this is a huge answer to climate change, imo. Less congestion and traffic - and even cars - means less pollution.
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17-Jun-2021 20:18:12 - Last edited on 17-Jun-2021 22:45:32 by Averia Light

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