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Tuffty
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FiFi LaFeles said :
But it's got the word "Dead" in it.
I'm afraid I'm ignoring the context and your intention in using the word. It's that word. It reminds me of people that I knew that are now dead. It offends me.
I can't explain it, it's a feeling.
Please do something about it.
She's had that name for years and just now it offends you... I think this is a little bit of a coincidence that you find it offensive now when in the past it's been fine.
The irony... lol
The word "cancer" has been used thousands of times in the forums. People have it in their thread titles. People have it in their posts. People have it in their names. People have it in their signatures. People have it as part of their clan names.
I think this is a little bit of a coincidence that you find it offensive now when in the past it's been fine.
You can't have societal structure built around undefined rules that can change from moment to moment based on someone's feelings.
We already have rules in society that determine what is or isn't offensive. You can't just ignore the rules that have already been agreed upon to impose a different set of
subjective rules that aren't defined anywhere.
FiFi LaFeles said :
But it's got the word "Dead" in it.
I'm afraid I'm ignoring the context and your intention in using the word. It's that word. It reminds me of people that I knew that are now dead. It offends me.
I can't explain it, it's a feeling.
Please do something about it.
She's had that name for years and just now it offends you... I think this is a little bit of a coincidence that you find it offensive now when in the past it's been fine.
The irony... lol
The word "cancer" has been used thousands of times in the forums. People have it in their thread titles. People have it in their posts. People have it in their names. People have it in their signatures. People have it as part of their clan names.
I think this is a little bit of a coincidence that you find it offensive now when in the past it's been fine.
You can't have societal structure built around undefined rules that can change from moment to moment based on someone's feelings.
We already have rules in society that determine what is or isn't offensive. You can't just ignore the rules that have already been agreed upon to impose a different set of
subjective rules that aren't defined anywhere.
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09-Dec-2018 14:28:07
Nexus.............
I never said I find someone's user name offensive. Fifi did.
I said if anyones name is offensive then Jagex will deal with it.
I'm not discussing the " other word " Thats how it is. Sorry if you wanted more from me but nope not going to happen. You may have missed 1 of my posts several pages back. Comprehensive Account Security
I never said I find someone's user name offensive. Fifi did.
I said if anyones name is offensive then Jagex will deal with it.
I'm not discussing the " other word " Thats how it is. Sorry if you wanted more from me but nope not going to happen. You may have missed 1 of my posts several pages back. Comprehensive Account Security
What do snowmen have for breakfast? Snowflakes!
09-Dec-2018 14:52:45
Tuffty
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I never said I find someone's user name offensive. Fifi did. I know. She made the exact same claim, that someone may be triggered by the word and become offended.
So why is one claim accepted and one not?
Personal subjective feelings.
That's the point I'm making.
You can't base offense on personal subjective feelings, as that changes from person to person, and can even change from moment to moment.
That's why we have rules for the language that allow us to look at what is being said objectively, and determine factually if someone is being offensive or not.
Just because something makes you feel sad, doesn't mean it is offensive.
Tuffty said :
I'm not discussing the " other word " Thats how it is. Sorry if you wanted more from me but nope not going to happen. You may have missed 1 of my posts several pages back. I'm just speaking candidly to the general public. If you don't want to engage in the discussion, no one will force you to.
I said no one will for you to.
Come on, put down the duct tape guys... we're not forcing him.
I think it's important that people discuss these topics, as they affect our society as a whole.
People need to learn how not to be offended, and how to deal with their emotions if they are offended, whether that offense actually exists or not. Society can't function properly if everyone is constantly worried about being offended, or offending others.
Censorship is oppression.
Knowledge is freedom.
This is how civilized society is supposed to work:
"Hey, that made me feel bad"
"Oh, that wasn't my intention, this is what I conveying"
"Ok, I had misinterpreted, that's my fault"
and not
"Hey, that made me feel bad"
"Oh, that wasn't my intention, this is what I conveying"
"Ok, I had misinterpreted, but I still feel bad, so it's your fault"
I never said I find someone's user name offensive. Fifi did. I know. She made the exact same claim, that someone may be triggered by the word and become offended.
So why is one claim accepted and one not?
Personal subjective feelings.
That's the point I'm making.
You can't base offense on personal subjective feelings, as that changes from person to person, and can even change from moment to moment.
That's why we have rules for the language that allow us to look at what is being said objectively, and determine factually if someone is being offensive or not.
Just because something makes you feel sad, doesn't mean it is offensive.
Tuffty said :
I'm not discussing the " other word " Thats how it is. Sorry if you wanted more from me but nope not going to happen. You may have missed 1 of my posts several pages back. I'm just speaking candidly to the general public. If you don't want to engage in the discussion, no one will force you to.
*ahem*
I said no one will for you to.
Come on, put down the duct tape guys... we're not forcing him.
I think it's important that people discuss these topics, as they affect our society as a whole.
People need to learn how not to be offended, and how to deal with their emotions if they are offended, whether that offense actually exists or not. Society can't function properly if everyone is constantly worried about being offended, or offending others.
Censorship is oppression.
Knowledge is freedom.
This is how civilized society is supposed to work:
"Hey, that made me feel bad"
"Oh, that wasn't my intention, this is what I conveying"
"Ok, I had misinterpreted, that's my fault"
and not
"Hey, that made me feel bad"
"Oh, that wasn't my intention, this is what I conveying"
"Ok, I had misinterpreted, but I still feel bad, so it's your fault"
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09-Dec-2018 15:38:00
Nexus I wish I could tell you but there are somethings I want to keep to myself.
I did say on a post some pages back about something. Find it and hopefully you will understand.
Not forcing you to look but asking you too.
I can't say any more. It's just somethings need to stay private for personal reasons. I really hope you understand.
Pssst page 1710.
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I did say on a post some pages back about something. Find it and hopefully you will understand.
Not forcing you to look but asking you too.
I can't say any more. It's just somethings need to stay private for personal reasons. I really hope you understand.
Pssst page 1710.
Comprehensive Account Security
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09-Dec-2018 15:46:22 - Last edited on 09-Dec-2018 15:47:39 by Tuffty
Yes personal reasons and yet you still don't see how dificult that word is for some people including me to forgive and forget about.
My last post on the matter. Not because of the topic. My kebab is due.
Comprehensive Account Security
My last post on the matter. Not because of the topic. My kebab is due.
Comprehensive Account Security
What do snowmen have for breakfast? Snowflakes!
09-Dec-2018 16:04:48
Tuffty
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Yes personal reasons and yet you still don't see how dificult that word is for some people including me to forgive and forget about.
You still don't see how that is a personal issue, and that you personally need to come to terms with it yourself.
If you wish to censor yourself and avoid various discussions or words due to personal feelings, then that's your choice.
But you can't censor the rest of the world while you attempt to come to terms with your own personal issues.
Tuffty said :
My kebab is due.
I once choked on a kebab, nearly died, and now I have panic attacks whenever I think about them. You're going to have to find a different word to use until I am finally comes to terms with this.
See what would happen if we allowed people's personal feelings to supersede logical thinking and expression?
We pass judgement based on the level that someone is being offensive; was it offensive, and how offensive was it?
We don't pass judgement based on how offended someone; were they offended, and how offended were they?
The level at which someone is offended has no correlation with the level at which someone is being offensive.
We pass judgement on someone based on their actions.
We don't pass judgement on someone based on how others react to them.
Yes personal reasons and yet you still don't see how dificult that word is for some people including me to forgive and forget about.
You still don't see how that is a personal issue, and that you personally need to come to terms with it yourself.
If you wish to censor yourself and avoid various discussions or words due to personal feelings, then that's your choice.
But you can't censor the rest of the world while you attempt to come to terms with your own personal issues.
Tuffty said :
My kebab is due.
I once choked on a kebab, nearly died, and now I have panic attacks whenever I think about them. You're going to have to find a different word to use until I am finally comes to terms with this.
See what would happen if we allowed people's personal feelings to supersede logical thinking and expression?
We pass judgement based on the level that someone is being offensive; was it offensive, and how offensive was it?
We don't pass judgement based on how offended someone; were they offended, and how offended were they?
The level at which someone is offended has no correlation with the level at which someone is being offensive.
We pass judgement on someone based on their actions.
We don't pass judgement on someone based on how others react to them.
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09-Dec-2018 16:14:40 - Last edited on 09-Dec-2018 16:25:52 by Nexus Origin
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