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Ancient Drew

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Team Skull said :
Raleirosen said :
Team Skull said :
All of this assumes gen 7, ofc. Gen 3; specifically, Emerald Version.

Still Shiftry then. If Cacturne got Sucker Punch, I would say Cacturne, but Shiftry still edges it out simply due to its speed tier (80 was actually good during that time). Shiftry is also a better tank. They both have 60 Defence and Sp.Def but Shiftry tips in at 90 HP while Cacturne has 70, and Shiftry has access to Amnesia. Cacturne can potentially heal more due to Ingrain on top of Leech Seed and Leftovers if you want, but Shiftry has potential to take more punishment. Prepare for hell on RuneScape in Naval Cataclysm!

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22-Jun-2017 11:57:33

Team Skull
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Ancient Drew said :
Team Skull said :
Raleirosen said :
Team Skull said :
All of this assumes gen 7, ofc. Gen 3; specifically, Emerald Version.

Still Shiftry then. If Cacturne got Sucker Punch, I would say Cacturne, but Shiftry still edges it out simply due to its speed tier (80 was actually good during that time). Shiftry is also a better tank. They both have 60 Defence and Sp.Def but Shiftry tips in at 90 HP while Cacturne has 70, and Shiftry has access to Amnesia. Cacturne can potentially heal more due to Ingrain on top of Leech Seed and Leftovers if you want, but Shiftry has potential to take more punishment.

Though 90/60/60 and 70/60/60 are completely relative when this is a thing:

252 Atk Beedrill Twineedle (2 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Shiftry: 244-288 (63.5 - 75%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

And this is from a mon with base 80 (in gen 3) Attack with a total base 50 power move. "Revenge...is like a rolling stone, which, when a man hath forced up a hill, will return upon him with a greater violence, and break those bones whose sinews gave it motion."- Jeremy Taylor

22-Jun-2017 13:25:19

Ancient Drew

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Yeah, Bug types will always destroy Shiftry or Cacturne. The funny thing is, Extrasensory and Aerial Ace give Shiftry somewhat of a chance against Fighting types, and Aerial Ace can take on bugs.

Here's something interesting I found. A move tutor in Emerald can teach Cacturne Thunderpunch. Prepare for hell on RuneScape in Naval Cataclysm!

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22-Jun-2017 13:44:49

Raleirosen

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Hah, just realized that my copy of Emerald is a bootleg. I had no idea that the "The game can be played" message had any significance, happened to google it out of idle curiosity and after a few minutes it became apparent that this cartridge is fake news. Very good likeness, though; only giveaways on the cartridge itself are an off-centered Nintendo logo and Nintendo seal, and the "con tent" on misspelling on the ESRB rating (in microscopic print, of course). Never would've given it a second glance.

Tried looking up whether these fakes are playable and apparently they have a habit of erasing game data after ~50 hours or so. Unfortunate. Maybe I'll find an emulator or something instead. Patrolling Lore FC almost makes you wish for a Great Revision.

23-Jun-2017 01:19:36 - Last edited on 23-Jun-2017 01:32:34 by Raleirosen

Ancient Drew

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That feel when you splash 70k on Iron Tail, only to learn later that the Celadon Mart sells Brick Break for 3k. Both types give Pikachu some coverage against the Rock types I will face, but Brick Break, which covers more types and is way more accurate, is over 20 times cheaper. Finances fucked unnecessarily.

EDIT: Ah well, it's only 3k. I can make that easy, and Pikachu needs a few levels anyway. It's level 43 at the moment and I'm about to take on Koga. Prepare for hell on RuneScape in Naval Cataclysm!

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23-Jun-2017 12:59:47 - Last edited on 23-Jun-2017 17:15:27 by Ancient Drew

Ancient Drew

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OK, I now have two Pheromosa, one with a Mild nature and one that's Adamant. Here are my movesets planned for them.

Mild: 252 Sp.Att, 252 Speed
@ Wide Lens

Bug Buzz
Focus Blast
Blizzard
Hidden Power (hoping it's Rock)

Adamant: 252 Attack, 252 Speed
@ Life Orb

Lunge
High Jump Kick
Bounce
Poison Jab Prepare for hell on RuneScape in Naval Cataclysm!

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28-Jun-2017 08:38:34

Team Skull
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Ehh...for Mild I'd go for HJK over Focus Miss, and if you're running Blizzard, Icium Z is p much a mandate. "Revenge...is like a rolling stone, which, when a man hath forced up a hill, will return upon him with a greater violence, and break those bones whose sinews gave it motion."- Jeremy Taylor

28-Jun-2017 12:15:46

Ancient Drew

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I was thinking of the Wide Lens really, but looking back on it, it makes Focus Blast and Blizzard both 77% accuracy, which even then is pretty poor. I could always put a Me First in there somewhere, and I'll change to Ice Beam. Wise Glasses or Life Orb as well. Prepare for hell on RuneScape in Naval Cataclysm!

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28-Jun-2017 12:53:50

Team Skull
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Ancient Drew said :
I was thinking of the Wide Lens really, but looking back on it, it makes Focus Blast and Blizzard both 77% accuracy, which even then is pretty poor. I could always put a Me First in there somewhere, and I'll change to Ice Beam. Wise Glasses or Life Orb as well.

Ehh...

Could do QD (on Mild), or U-Turn (on both sets).


But yoooooo, you need to battle me sometime. I just need to finish training my Fuckle with Shuckle and Re-EV my Bulu. "Revenge...is like a rolling stone, which, when a man hath forced up a hill, will return upon him with a greater violence, and break those bones whose sinews gave it motion."- Jeremy Taylor

28-Jun-2017 19:02:07

Ancient Drew

Ancient Drew

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Team Skull said :
Ancient Drew said :
I was thinking of the Wide Lens really, but looking back on it, it makes Focus Blast and Blizzard both 77% accuracy, which even then is pretty poor. I could always put a Me First in there somewhere, and I'll change to Ice Beam. Wise Glasses or Life Orb as well.

Ehh...

Could do QD (on Mild), or U-Turn (on both sets).


But yoooooo, you need to battle me sometime. I just need to finish training my Fuckle with Shuckle and Re-EV my Bulu. Thanks, I'll get cracking with my Fairy team as well, and probably others. Though I might need Ninetales-A or Togekiss to finish it off. Failing that I'll look for something else.

By the way, I noticed something really weird. Cosmog weighs 0.1 kg. And it evolves into Cosmoem, which weighs 999.9 kg, same as Celesteela. And Cosmoem is 4 inches tall. That's nearly 100 kg per centimetre. Prepare for hell on RuneScape in Naval Cataclysm!

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30-Jun-2017 00:08:39

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