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0mniscient
Aug Member 2023

0mniscient

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It can be a shared area that's upgraded like anachronia. Just incorporated into POH is a way to revive dead content. Bosses could drop upgrade/maintain materials in replace of logs and such. I will never agree that the common loot boss drops contribute to any enjoyment. I know you never feel any dopamine from them regardless what you say lol. If you need side drops to fund your bossing, then you need to build up from lower bosses to make it to a large drop, its not that long of a drought.

Some minigames are hated because they were required for comp and people were forced to do them. That's why they can be tradeable reward for the grinds. Other than that, low grind rewards for people to have to give it a shot and see if they like it.

Skilling is so dead I already forgot about fort. lmao.

You expect to be rewarded in 2 clues? I mean, I can do 2 clues now and get like 100k, which is like 20k OS.

Power creep is inevitable, but the amount necromancy jumped at once is not normal. It broke many bosses and needs to be nerfed. If you want to create creep, fine, that's normal, but do it in moderation.

22-Sep-2023 06:49:46

Rikornak
Oct Member 2013

Rikornak

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If you can't differ between "contribute to any enjoyment" and "feel any dopamine" vs. "things feel like a waste of time" or "things are getting more and more annoying due to bad luck"... what I said literally was the latter. There are enough players already getting annoyed due to bad luck streaks. But I think they're a bit oblivious to the fact they at least get their supplies paid and end up with a bit on their hands. If this is a bad thing to you... let's just say I am glad you're not a game designer.

It makes a bit of a difference if a minigame is required to be done for a bit - or if you have to spend over 80 days of real time within them - CW obviously is the worst offender, but there are more stinkers in that pool - not for comping alone, but take alone a look how much time you've needed to spend in some horrible activity like GOP in order to receive your master runecrafter outfit - likewise a lot of other xp sets locked behind activities that just can be considered a waste of time - lots of time - sure they can be nice and fun for a bit - but eventually they get dull, almost always before you're done with it. At least for the black ibis set their fix was outright MTX. Some other sets received more adequate ingame sources.

Most skills in RS3 are pretty proftitable. Even things like construction by now. What do you expect - profits you can see for endgame bossing, which require much more investments, attention and skill? Improvements: Tooltip / (F2P) QoL v2
Quick Fixes: Invention

22-Sep-2023 07:21:15 - Last edited on 22-Sep-2023 07:55:25 by Rikornak

Rikornak
Oct Member 2013

Rikornak

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Yeah - obviously you can receive blanks from TTs in RS3 as well - not even that rarely. But in OS it's pretty binary jackpot or blank - as I said - a TT with two uniques would be decent in RS3, in OS it's basically just another blank. In RS3 you just often will have at least a consolation prize in form of the fortunates - and yeah other things with some value at least. Which actually can add up quite a bit until you're actually receiving your jackpot. Nobody sane of their mind would recommend a newbie in OS to do a few TTs to earn cash. It's exclusively content for enthusiasts. Enthusiasts that love to be pummeled in their faces most of the time, just to see that awesome thing after some very long time. As said - the jackpots in RS3 are equally awesome, just the path to them is not as crappy. Do you think they cause less joy due to players not having endured as much of crap until then?

Stark contrast to you wanting to make things more valuable. No you don't - you only want to drag down the things, that actually are good. Probably less of a relief to finally see something. But other than that? Improvements: Tooltip / (F2P) QoL v2
Quick Fixes: Invention

22-Sep-2023 07:25:41 - Last edited on 22-Sep-2023 07:55:52 by Rikornak

Rikornak
Oct Member 2013

Rikornak

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In general I would rather expect them to rebalance the game to be more fitting for the then reworked styles. RS3 could benefit from a better mid game - so why not taking the chances to transform lower and medium levelled things like the KBD, GWD or KQ into actual bosses, rather than named slayer mobs? They perfectly could do this as soon as the combat system from our side is transformed. I mean - yeah, they nerfed the skulls ultimate already, but on the other hand they buffed several other aspects or made them more convenient to use. So I think at least for necromancy they're pretty happy with it right now. As for the other styles - and the older content you'll just interact with - we'll see... it's not like they haven't reworked a lot of low levelled monsters alongside the necromancy release after all. Players complain they feel a bit weak against them, so they might even have gone overboard with that - but probably more given the fact the other styles are not adequate right now.

Yeah lots of minigames - especially ones, that are extremely similiar to one another - dilute their player bases. I could get behind consolidating things for that matter. Improvements: Tooltip / (F2P) QoL v2
Quick Fixes: Invention

22-Sep-2023 07:37:47 - Last edited on 22-Sep-2023 08:21:44 by Rikornak

Rikornak
Oct Member 2013

Rikornak

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When it comes to skilling - I'd like you to play OS for a bit. OS follows a lot of your design concepts still after all. But I just would like you to see based on this game - if you really feel skilling there would feel any more rewarding than here... since this overall as a game seems to be what you would want to have.

I do play that game for a bit and I can't say I often see for non-combat skills anything like 'yep - that's something great I could do now' - the only exception I really can think of on a wider scale is construction, which for a long time was more rewarding than RS3. But also only on high levels. But other than that - I only see cool new things every once in a while for combat skills - and even ranged and magic have very long streaks of draught at medium levels. And agility, yeah... almost mandatory. I must admit I do prefer useful things, than ones you're almost forced to grind out to get the game into even something remotely playable state - and even at high agility levels with their fancy outfit, OS certainly is worse than RS3 right from the get go. Yeah sure, you could sink in potions to fix that... Improvements: Tooltip / (F2P) QoL v2
Quick Fixes: Invention

22-Sep-2023 08:25:05

ELITE STACK
Mar Member 2014

ELITE STACK

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1. remove resources from bosses but not easy slayer mobs? If anything resources from easy slayer mobs should be nerfed like abby creatures dropping tons of pure essence. Removal of resource drops is not necessary just rebalance.

2. What kind of legendary items?

3. No support for this

4. Sure proteans should stop being added to th but no support to resource boosters.

5. what kind of tt rewards?

6. Nerf what? Xp rates were already nerfed + death skulls scaling up was already nerfed too. Reason its op is because it goes to level 120. What I would do is make the weapons and armours degradable As all other combat styles have degradable items.

7. No support to scaling bosses look what happened in osrs with wintertodt it punishes you for leveling up hp.

8. Sure what kind of rewards?

9. I agree there is some content that can be updated like minigames.

10. Sure maybe for future items but not current items. There could be better item sinks though.

11. No support pvm hub is fine it doesn't make content hard to add. You need boss kills to unlock the rewards so its not like you need to do nothing. I need my blue charms back.

22-Sep-2023 14:08:46 - Last edited on 22-Sep-2023 14:10:03 by ELITE STACK

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