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Adarajin
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If you can't finish a task by doing the assigned task at optimum training methods before the skill & kill is completed, then perhaps it needs to be rebalanced slightly, but overall I think it's pretty well done. My alt (that only mines/smiths) finished a few days ago, and he only did 2-3 tasks outside of skill and kill at most. As mentioned by others, you should have PLENTY of time to finish the event since you are given 5+ weeks...

As a side note - it's 5 hours at most for the regular tasks (the last 5 I think) and 3 hours for the 51st repeatable - there are no 6 hour tasks....
Things may be looking down now, but I see a light at the end of the tunnel;
Do you think I should get off the tracks?

04-Jan-2023 05:33:24 - Last edited on 04-Jan-2023 05:34:27 by Adarajin

Rikornak
Oct Member 2013

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In general there were and still are poorly balanced tasks - that's actually right and those need to be fixed. Some firemaking task asking you to burn 2000 elder logs obviously still is broken (since it's just not feasible for the vast majority of players) and we're talking about the 13th iteration of this promotion - so yeah, sometimes it's just better to sit out the task or skip it. But in general the 'gain xp' tasks do work with cost efficient or even profitable methods within a reasonable amount of time - some skills like archaeology (this is literally the only skill, that got degraded when they got rid of the sift soil task in favour for xp exclusively) or summoning aside. You obviously just need to stick to one of those methods and that also is why I mentioned to use the proteans and dummies the track throws at you anyway. Improvements: Tooltip / (F2P) QoL v2
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05-Jan-2023 06:55:34

Daddy Roshi
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I didn't see a task that said burn 2k elder logs exclusively ur also given lower tier ones like magic or even yew logs if u choose to do 2k elders that's ur own choice ur obviously given other options
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05-Jan-2023 14:53:48

Rikornak
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Task 46 in this track - literally 2k Elder logs or driftwood (yeah have fun with collecting 2k of those either) - take a look at the wiki if you don't believe me.

Firemaking at task 40+ (and most likely even before that, but 40 certainly is the cutoff point) never is magic logs. This track you were lucky enough to have cooking as a bypass, but you were often enough actually forced to burn shittons of elder logs in the past - or sit it out or skip. That roughly on the same level as - create tons of soul runes due to a RC task being late - not really comparable to the remainder of the skill, yet the task demanded comparable amounts. Probably also not broken for you, yet Jagex changed it to an universal xp task for reasons. Those process item tasks only work if the cutoff point doesn't suddenly switch into something working entirely differently - otherwise they literally need to allow to process all items at all times.
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05-Jan-2023 15:28:33 - Last edited on 05-Jan-2023 15:43:26 by Rikornak

Daddy Roshi
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i doubt they would give a task of just straight burn 2k elders and nothing else aside from skill and kill frankly they either need to add magic logs to that one or add new logs rightly i dont see y they didnt include magic logs but u can do sharks for the cooking one that makes no sense what so ever
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05-Jan-2023 23:03:05

Rikornak
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Take a look at the wiki, also throughout the past tracks. It doesn't matter 'what you doubt they would do' - they just do it - gracefully enough this time, that it was given alongside a cooking task. Go through the past tracks and you'll see quite a few times a firemaking task without alternative - with luck it already was skill/kill or a non-broken task, otherwise option B also was borked - so skipping is the only option.

A lot of those 'process item tasks' were broken from the first iteration of this promotion for late tasks - they assigned you things like - create a shitton of elder rune items, they literally made you build hundreds of marble cape racks (yeah that did happen...) in the first few iterations, they've made you make hundreds of soul runes (especially without their x3 band aid fix they've applied at some point), they've made you create thousands of level 110+ potions for herblore, they've let you restore hundreds of level 100+ artifacts, they've let you create thousands of royal dragon armour pieces, they've let you string thousands of elder bows, they... - And do you know why - they just go brainlessly by levels to process this crap - sharks are level 80, magic logs just 75, thus too low for such a late task - admittingly it does show how horrendously broken woodcutting is.

With the exception of prayer and sifting soil while that still was a thing the 'fix' for all those skills was rolling them over to a xp format. Burying bones / Scattering ashes simply was changed to allow to use any bone or ash, which is a better solution, since it makes prayer tasks bonecrusher friendly.

I mean - of course they re-host this promotion four times each year, but how can it be, that some tasks still are broken - it's the 13th iteration of this crap...
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06-Jan-2023 06:11:17

Daddy Roshi
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Rikornak said :
Take a look at the wiki, also throughout the past tracks. It doesn't matter 'what you doubt they would do'
so i looked at the wiki and yea any high level fm has an alternate option with it any fm tsk above 30 had an alternate option mostly seems to be cooking im not looking through all the past ones but they clearly arnt making people burn 2k elders without another option so far at least i again doubt they will make it solely burn 2k elders even if its just my speculation who knows well see what the future holds

obviously yak tracks are always changing but for at least the last 4 i looked at the high fm tasks had cooking along side them
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06-Jan-2023 22:39:58

Rikornak
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Which still doesn't change, that the firemaking component of that task is broken. Yeah, nice, that you could complete the task at all (honestly - I can perfectly believe, that they bundled it with cooking for that very reason), without sitting it out or skipping it - and yeah technically those two things are options as well, the former one as Task B even called so.

But isn't firemaking supposed to be an alternative , when it is actually offered ? If you're not actually supposed to do firemaking, they just could remove it - or they could apply their usual fix of changing it to a xp task - problem solved.
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07-Jan-2023 05:19:22

Daddy Roshi
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ok and like i said before they can add magic logs or even curly roots to the fm task so its not broken but until then at least u can do cooking as an alternative or do skill and kill
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07-Jan-2023 14:44:10

Rikornak
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Yeah, yeah - can do, should do, would be nice if they did... - while it would fix the issues with that task, they obviously haven't bothered to do that for over three years and thirteen tracks (while not every track had had a task asking you actually burn elder logs, it was an issue for the first tracks and it's still an issue now) - but then again - why not directly use a xp task for firemaking as well - that also allows players to use more alternative methods - just like accidental firemaking or whatever the future could bring and only would be included 4-5 tracks later (if at all)... - especially accidental firemaking is firemaking endgame - and you outright can't use it for within that unflexible crap of a system. Improvements: Tooltip / (F2P) QoL v2
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07-Jan-2023 14:53:07 - Last edited on 07-Jan-2023 15:07:09 by Rikornak

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