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Thesims201 said :
I have come up with a good idea of how the MQC Lore Book Drops could be obtained, how about as well as the option of having to kill the same monster over and over until you get the drop (which, let's be honest, having this as the only option is just needless padding, killing monsters because you want to is fun but if you are getting a book drop there should be a more interesting and challenging way that garuntees the book drop), there is also an option (after killing about 300 of the ordinary version of the monster) of an underground dungeon with puzzles, challenges, a few monsters around to keep you on your toes, and at the end, a stronger version of the ordinary version of the monster (that you can choose to keep killing until the book if you want), defeating this stronger version would get you the book 100% (since it's harder)

I'm open to ideas but I just personally think making MQC lore drops based more on skill than luck would be cool, after all you'd think a Master Quest cape would have you go on an exciting challenging adventure to definitely get these lore drops, feel free to post your thoughts
Support, sounds good.

14-Feb-2022 05:20:41

Jeremy Cheng said :
Thesims201 said :
I have come up with a good idea of how the MQC Lore Book Drops could be obtained, how about as well as the option of having to kill the same monster over and over until you get the drop (which, let's be honest, having this as the only option is just needless padding, killing monsters because you want to is fun but if you are getting a book drop there should be a more interesting and challenging way that garuntees the book drop), there is also an option (after killing about 300 of the ordinary version of the monster) of an underground dungeon with puzzles, challenges, a few monsters around to keep you on your toes, and at the end, a stronger version of the ordinary version of the monster (that you can choose to keep killing until the book if you want), defeating this stronger version would get you the book 100% (since it's harder)

I'm open to ideas but I just personally think making MQC lore drops based more on skill than luck would be cool, after all you'd think a Master Quest cape would have you go on an exciting challenging adventure to definitely get these lore drops, feel free to post your thoughts
Support, sounds good.

I agree, cheers for the support 200m Dunge, Rc, Mage and invention accomplished, + 120 Constitution/Slayer/Range/Summoning/Woodcutting/Mining/Defence/Strength and 110m fishing, got comp/MQC and 200m Fishing/Woodcutting/Mining as well as 120 herb/Farming/Cooking most 120s just Agility, Theiving, Hunter and Prayer left

16-Feb-2022 11:08:07

After this thread, I'm not sure what is up with the Abyssal Lords having a key (needed for comp) that you need to be lucky enough to get while not having an option like this. The fact that despite this thread, they didn't wait til having an idea like this before bringing a luck based comp req in suggests they are just not listening sometimes (and I have already put in the effort and poured numerous hours in to killing Abyssal Lords, I just think a better design for those who have already put in plenty of effort would be nice)

Honestly (And I only mean this in a constructive criticism way) please just listen (I'm not even expecting an update like this to make it in to game fast, just to hold off on more RNG drops needed for cape until an update of this nature can be done) not much to ask is it? You guys have the potential to make some Great content (And I've seen it, I was impressed with the boss fights in the Extinction quest and this week's quest - some really inventive mechanics used so I know you have got it ) 200m Dunge, Rc, Mage and invention accomplished, + 120 Constitution/Slayer/Range/Summoning/Woodcutting/Mining/Defence/Strength and 110m fishing, got comp/MQC and 200m Fishing/Woodcutting/Mining as well as 120 herb/Farming/Cooking most 120s just Agility, Theiving, Hunter and Prayer left

03-Aug-2022 23:55:08 - Last edited on 04-Aug-2022 00:05:41 by Thesims201

04-Aug-2022 09:52:57 - Last edited on 04-Aug-2022 09:58:18 by Rikornak

Rikornak said :
Generally - if it's fairly rare it shouldn't be as rare for higher levelled thematically fitting creatures.

If it's only available from a difficult boss fight, it could be available rarely from weaker similiar enemies (like the magister books).

If it's rare and can't be reasonably distributed elsewhere it should use some bad luck protection. ED1-3 sorta have the issue, that story mode - as the mode intended to obtain the lore books - has better base odds, but no kind of bad luck protection - and isn't even offering token loot akin to ED4 - might both be something that could be changed for that matter.

Generally you should obtain that stuff eventually - if you're unlucky it's fine it takes longer - but you should just get better odds over time. Players certainly should work for that stuff though.

Yeah I agree with the fact that some work needs to go in to get the stuff at least, and once I have got the drop, I can see Abyssal Lords being something I come back to sometimes for the challenge - they are a fun challenge to fight against I'll no doubt be back at them again sometime this week 200m Dunge, Rc, Mage and invention accomplished, + 120 Constitution/Slayer/Range/Summoning/Woodcutting/Mining/Defence/Strength and 110m fishing, got comp/MQC and 200m Fishing/Woodcutting/Mining as well as 120 herb/Farming/Cooking most 120s just Agility, Theiving, Hunter and Prayer left

04-Aug-2022 21:59:56 - Last edited on 04-Aug-2022 22:08:50 by Thesims201

Post I made in August last year since it won't let me quote it -
After this thread, I'm not sure what is up with the Abyssal Lords having a key (needed for comp) that you need to be lucky enough to get while not having an option like this. The fact that despite this thread, they didn't wait til having an idea like this before bringing a luck based comp req in suggests they are just not listening sometimes (and I have already put in the effort and poured numerous hours in to killing Abyssal Lords, I just think a better design for those who have already put in plenty of effort would be nice)

Honestly (And I only mean this in a constructive criticism way) please just listen (I'm not even expecting an update like this to make it in to game fast, just to hold off on more RNG drops needed for cape until an update of this nature can be done) not much to ask is it? You guys have the potential to make some Great content (And I've seen it, I was impressed with the boss fights in the Extinction quest and this week's quest - some really inventive mechanics used so I know you have got it )



And yet despite this post, Jagex decide early 2023 adding some MQC reqs (that are RNG) is a good idea - not immediately listening to an idea can be a bit understandable when you are busy with other large scale updates, but when you go a straight 180 on something that has been requested (in this case, holding off on adding more RNG based drops to a cape til you think of a more Skill-Based, and less Luck-Based, way to get the drops) is something that I do not get :/ 200m Dunge, Rc, Mage and invention accomplished, + 120 Constitution/Slayer/Range/Summoning/Woodcutting/Mining/Defence/Strength and 110m fishing, got comp/MQC and 200m Fishing/Woodcutting/Mining as well as 120 herb/Farming/Cooking most 120s just Agility, Theiving, Hunter and Prayer left

03-Apr-2023 22:46:37 - Last edited on 03-Apr-2023 23:00:35 by Thesims201

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