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Abyssal Sire
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Abyssal Sire

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Liquidity will go up due to not needing your trade partner online to complete the transaction. The higher liquidity goes, the more volatility low-volume items will have because their price is not as accurately represented right now. White/blue/cracker crash big, others/bsh crash small, disk/egg/pumpkin goes up small, half wine goes up big. Maybe cracker will be an anomaly though.

15-Sep-2022 00:31:09

SlR
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Crazy guess here but I reckon they're considering having Party Hats tradeable only via G/E.
They don't seem to like the fact that the same few people are playing hot-potato with them.

In response to OP, I don't think the order will change unless someone with a lot of one colour decides to quit the game (or a bunch of people with more of the same colours do).
As for the dupes thing, yeah the most expensive (rarer ones) got duped but so did the more common ones (and there were more of them around at the time of duping) so who knows! Bob says:
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16-Sep-2022 17:16:54 - Last edited on 16-Sep-2022 17:18:34 by SlR

SirJosh
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The reason why I think the more common Phats will go lower is because there will be more players in competition trying to sell them in the GE at once. Therefore causing more players to undercut to get the sales. This could potentially decrease the value of the more common hats. Whereas, those trying to sell the more rare Phats on the Ge will have less competition, and be able to hold their ground with pricing better.

17-Sep-2022 00:58:10

SlR
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Does anyone 'know' which ones are most common? that's my issue with the dupe thing...
It's anyone's guess, I reckon the only people that know (or have a better idea) are dupers.
The super rich (and RWT sites) would have more accurate data but they wouldn't share it. Bob says:
A bank PIN will keep your items secure.
Always check the second trade screen.
Never trade in the Wilderness!
Keep your computer keylogger-free and virus scanned.
Never give your password out to anyone.

17-Sep-2022 09:54:15 - Last edited on 17-Sep-2022 09:54:32 by SlR

SlR
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SirJosh said :
It’s just logic.
It's really not though. It's just people whistling the same tune to each other. Nobody knows. If someone has more of one (colour) than another, they're not going to leave them out of the mix (not dupe it along with the more sought after colours) are they?

Unless they were only able to dupe 1 item (or stack of 1 item) at a time, it doesn't compute.

Let's say they have 3x greens, 1 blue and 2 red (to start). Imagine they dupe 3x, that's +12/3/8. Now imagine they dupe 6x, that's +192/128/64. Big difference! Twice as many dupes yet 16x on the resulting amount.

There's just far too many variables for 'logic' to come into this. We don't know how many Jagex removed or how many are still sitting on latent accounts. I personally like to think they rolled them back to roughly however many there were before the glitch, but who knows.

Also, how long was the dupe live for before it got fixed? My above figures are conservative, imagine a player with 10 of each colour duping 5x, that's +1600. But yeah, a lot of them got removed (you'd hope) so the rarity should be whatever the rarity was, roughly.

I imagine there are fewer 'commons' due to RWT accounts getting banned, since they're taking a strong stance on that. Not as many people are going to risk buying/selling the high-end ones, so they'd remain in game. At the end of the day, I don't know, nobody does.

And if you want to see some daft numbers, imagine duping 'just' 3 hats 10x, that's +3072!
Even more hilarious a number is 10 hats duped 10x = 10,240.
- No chance Jagex would let that many remain in game. So, if you think some remain in-game (which many people do) how many? and how did you come to that answer? That's what I'd like to know. Anyone else feel free to chime in, maybe I'm missing something.

How many duped rares would slip under the radar, how long is a piece of string? lol Bob says:
A bank PIN will keep your items secure.
Always check the second trade screen.
Never trade in the Wilderness!
Keep your computer keylogger-free and virus scanned.
Never give your password out to anyone.

17-Sep-2022 15:24:48 - Last edited on 17-Sep-2022 15:37:01 by SlR

Noodells
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The partyhat duplication glitch is often misunderstood as a dupe. When in fact, the event was a item id creation using a cheating software called "AutoRune". I suggest you watch rswillmissit Youtube video called "The bug that crashed RuneScape’s most expensive item". It goes into great detail explaining the whole situation.

17-Sep-2022 23:55:12 - Last edited on 18-Sep-2022 00:00:59 by Noodells

SlR
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I just don't think we can assume the amount of a certain colour in-game without official sources. Unless there is evidence that they didn't clean up or roll back things to how they were pre-glitch? I'm sure some slipped through the cracks, but how many? The cracker drop odds are as close as we'll get when guesstimating these things (imo) and no I don't have vested interests. I'm just looking for a bit of objectivity.

Will the more common colours (whichever they are) be sold more on the G/E? I think so!
Will it affect the order? it shouldn't do, but people do price things emotionally sometimes.


People duping the most valuable ones (at the time) makes sense, sure, but to assume they weren't also the ones most removed afterwards is a bit silly. Unless people think there's a lot of them unaccounted for, things should be roughly how they were before the glitch. (?)

EDIT: I just watched that video you suggested, ty btw interesting vid! you're right, it wasn't a dupe, it was item spawning: +14 at a time (classic inventory). I was actually referring to the 'dupe' people did in the Wilderness though, with crashing the servers and what-not. Let me find the video and return the favour! https://youtu.be/IBabr-3d2Ag
Turns out that was OSRS! my bad.

Either way, the only information we 'know' is what Jagex have said (unless they're fibbing?) but I'll assume party hat numbers went back to 90% of what they were pre-item-spawning.

We're all just guessing really, but I reckon not a lot will change in the long-run. There will be a spike (up / down) during the first week or two as people panic sell/buy. That'd be my guess.
Bob says:
A bank PIN will keep your items secure.
Always check the second trade screen.
Never trade in the Wilderness!
Keep your computer keylogger-free and virus scanned.
Never give your password out to anyone.

18-Sep-2022 10:05:41 - Last edited on 18-Sep-2022 10:46:12 by SlR

OrderedEight
Sep Member 2020

OrderedEight

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I guess everyone is forgetting that phats used to be on the G.E. for many years. The order stayed the same with the exception of purple moving up, but that was not because of the G.E.
I doubt we will see an order change.

19-Sep-2022 01:17:54

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