RuneScape Forum Archive | Can i be banned?

Oct

2018

Neobandit

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"It is generally OK to play and use items where a bug is minor and does not give you any advantage. We will not take action against you if you play with a graphical bug that causes your cape to not display properly, for example."

Does this last clause in the rules include smuggled items? That is what i want answered from Jagex

I'd also like to know if seeking these smuggled items is considered encouraging rule breaking

"Encouraging other players to abuse a bug or sharing information about it is treated in the same way as continually abusing the bug yourself and can lead to a ban."

If the final clause does include smuggled items and seeking smuggled items is considered rule breaking, then that would mean there is a contradiction in the rules. Collecting

04-Oct-2022 00:43:45 - Last edited on 04-Oct-2022 00:44:44 by Neobandit

Mage Girl 91

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Tuffty said :

What happens outside of the Forums means nothing to Me as I and other F-Mods have no powers. You take the risks there.

well if they're not enforcing the rules in other places where the jmods actually hang out, maybe it's ur forum rules that are wrong xDd Original message details are unavailable.

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04-Oct-2022 02:23:10

Aug

2013

Jeremy Cheng

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hey neobandit i saw ur post earlier thx for the clarification and regarding the topic i hope jmod does reply to set the record straight i do believe this falls under a gray area with the rules it is kinda their fault for keeping these items tradeable so ppl collect them amongst themselves.

04-Oct-2022 04:41:44

Aug

2020

Aecka

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Neobandit said :

"It is generally OK to play and use items where a bug is minor and does not give you any advantage. We will not take action against you if you play with a graphical bug that causes your cape to not display properly, for example."

Does this last clause in the rules include smuggled items? That is what i want answered from Jagex

if these smuggled items are due to bug abuse then it comes down to "does not give you any advantage", if people are smuggling these items to sell and create a market around selling to
collectors (i.e. they make money out of it so have a financial gain, which is an advantage), then there is an advantage to be gained from doing so.. and as such surely the only conclusion is that this is breaking the rules as you are contributing to bug abuse by being part of that market (either as a seller or buyer).
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05-Oct-2022 09:19:21 - Last edited on 05-Oct-2022 09:20:34 by Aecka

May

2007

J R Kerr

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I feel like OP sorta trolled Tuffty here.

His answer was moreso about x, and you revise saying you mean y.

I aint sayin what, either, but thats less subtle than you think.

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06-Oct-2022 07:08:30

Oct

2018

Neobandit

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J R Kerr said :
I feel like OP sorta trolled Tuffty here.

His answer was moreso about x, and you revise saying you mean y.

I aint sayin what, either, but thats less subtle than you think.

Tuffty knew what i was talking about. The reason i posted this is because he took down an earlier post of mine where i was looking for a castle wars bandage smuggled out of castle wars, which is similar to new varrock items in that its a useless item with no other purpose other than to collect. Collecting

06-Oct-2022 10:45:12

Oct

2018

Neobandit

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Aecka said :
Neobandit said :

"It is generally OK to play and use items where a bug is minor and does not give you any advantage. We will not take action against you if you play with a graphical bug that causes your cape to not display properly, for example."

Does this last clause in the rules include smuggled items? That is what i want answered from Jagex

if these smuggled items are due to bug abuse then it comes down to "does not give you any advantage", if people are smuggling these items to sell and create a market around selling to
collectors (i.e. they make money out of it so have a financial gain, which is an advantage), then there is an advantage to be gained from doing so.. and as such surely the only conclusion is that this is breaking the rules as you are contributing to bug abuse by being part of that market (either as a seller or buyer).

Makes sense. However, the way i interpret the rules is that if the items themselves gives you no advantage in itself then they are ok to have and play with. How do you play with a useless item? buying/selling/flexing them. Now that i think of it, the rules dont mention buying/selling these useless items at alI. I think its time for jagex to clarify this mess by stating in their rules specifically their stance on buying/selling these items. Maybe put a warning that although it may not lead to a ban, buying a smuggled item can lead to a loss since we will wipe any smuggled items we find from accounts. That would fix the problem. Collectors would no longer desire these items and sellers would have a harder time selling, creating less of an incentive to bug abuse. Until then ima flex my smuggled items like they are party hats. Collecting

06-Oct-2022 11:06:12 - Last edited on 06-Oct-2022 11:37:33 by Neobandit

Oct

2018

Neobandit

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If anyone is curious, i originally didnt care for smuggled items. however, i am a collector of accidental rares which are mostly alt-ID items such as the non-ge gauntlets and Alt-ID burnt lobsters. The item that got me into smuggled items was the infamous New varrock cabbage, since it was an Alt-id item (and it was shiny and green), and the ogleroot (since it was shiny and purple, as well as a potential rare baby troll name). Ever since then ive been trying to amass every smuggled item i could get my hands on. It would be a great honor if i helped Jagex fix their game. If anything my collection is an encyclopedia of all of jagex's mistakes and i made their jobs easier by showing all the items they mistakenly allowed to stay in the game. If jagex wiped my account tomorrow id just focus on official discontinued rares like a normal person. Collecting

06-Oct-2022 11:28:05

Jan

2015

Tenebri

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i think there is a lot of context missing, sure you say "buying smuggled items" but thats overly broad statement. and can be taken in many different ways

the recent issue in fsw with smuggled items was a huge issue to the game and yes bans needed.

smuggling items out of dg and keeping them in bank like a key... who cares.

im curious about your araxyte spiders. what makes them special? is it just the discontinued ones? or how are they smuggled? i have my discontinued arax spiders. but if there is more to it im unaware of im curious to know

theres a different of bug abusing, and using a bug.

like keeping untrimmed skill capes in osrs and back in the day, technically thats a bug, but its allowed.
then theres smuggling items for a huge gain.
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06-Oct-2022 12:57:45 - Last edited on 06-Oct-2022 12:58:49 by Tenebri

Oct

2018

Neobandit

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The araxytes are just discontinued, not smuggled. I keep the smuggled items in my discontinued tab because many of the smuggled items are Alt-Id items. So you could imagine two intersecting circles with one circle being discontinued items and the other circle being smuggled items, where Alt-Id items would be what happens when the two circles intersect. But if i am to be honest, i have a hope that the smuggles will be patched so that my smuggled items will be considered discontinued. I know that may rub people the wrong way but that is the truth. Discontinued smuggled items already exist now. For example, The ogleroot smuggle has been patched, so its technically a discontinued item. Jagex made ogleroots unbankable in hopes that people would no longer desire them, but that hasnt stopped me from storing them on an alt. I dont know how to code so i dont know if its impossible or too difficult to just wipe them from inventories or if Jagex is just being lazy with their patches.

Collecting

06-Oct-2022 14:31:49