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Sea King
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Nothing has changed to 2nd age since they were 1b or so (or less) just a month ago. Same graphics. Same supply (or slightly more). So what's changed? The base of Runescape players suddenly becoming 'woke' about 2nd age or just a clique of merchants who are trying to pull off a pump-and-dump? From what I can see on this thread, it's mostly just the same 2nd age owners trading among themselves.

As I just bought myself some overpriced 2nd age items, it's not like I financially benefit by pointing out these things out.

[To keep my assessment balanced, it's worth emphasizing that 2b in 2021 isn't the same as 2b in 2020 or 2018. Given the hyperinflation seen in the past 12 months, it is conceivable that the rise in 2nd age prices are overdue as the effects of hyperinflation now are being manifested in the 2nd age market as we have seen already in other markets.] If you are willing to chuck your most precious possessions like phats because someone said words like crashing/dying/quitting and then find yourself unable to rebuy for what you sold for, then you don't deserve to own a phat.

10-Mar-2021 16:47:02

I Jonyfrecle

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Sea King said :
Nothing has changed to 2nd age since they were 1b or so (or less) just a month ago. Same graphics. Same supply (or slightly more). So what's changed? The base of Runescape players suddenly becoming 'woke' about 2nd age or just a clique of merchants who are trying to pull off a pump-and-dump? From what I can see on this thread, it's mostly just the same 2nd age owners trading among themselves.


True, it's mostly merchers trading amongst themselves, the true test is whether people who aren't merching 2a are willing to pay the "new prices"

But you're wrong about on thing, something has changed since 1 month ago, this dude posted this thread https://secure.runescape.com/m=forum/a=13/forums?17,18,824,66199235
making people "woke" as you say, to how rare it actually is.

To put the numbers on that thread into a little perspective. They released 5k christmas scythes and 1k black santa hats. Scythes are 3 bill ea and BSH are 15 bill each.

The next argument would be - "well, scythe and BSH are discontinued".

Which is true. However, at the current drop rate of 2a, and the current rate people are completing master clues, a single 2a armour piece will be rarer than a bsh for another 37 years, and rarer than a scythe for another 197 years.

That, combined with the fact that 2a looks reasonably decent has made it an attractive item for long term investment.

10-Mar-2021 17:05:32 - Last edited on 10-Mar-2021 17:06:46 by I Jonyfrecle

Sea King
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I Jonyfrecle said :
Sea King said :
Nothing has changed to 2nd age since they were 1b or so (or less) just a month ago. Same graphics. Same supply (or slightly more). So what's changed? The base of Runescape players suddenly becoming 'woke' about 2nd age or just a clique of merchants who are trying to pull off a pump-and-dump? From what I can see on this thread, it's mostly just the same 2nd age owners trading among themselves.


True, it's mostly merchers trading amongst themselves, the true test is whether people who aren't merching 2a are willing to pay the "new prices"

But you're wrong about on thing, something has changed since 1 month ago, this dude posted this thread https://secure.runescape.com/m=forum/a=13/forums?17,18,824,66199235
making people "woke" as you say, to how rare it actually is.

To put the numbers on that thread into a little perspective. They released 5k christmas scythes and 1k black santa hats. Scythes are 3 bill ea and BSH are 15 bill each.

The next argument would be - "well, scythe and BSH are discontinued".

Which is true. However, at the current drop rate of 2a, and the current rate people are completing master clues, a single 2a armour piece will be rarer than a bsh for another 37 years, and rarer than a scythe for another 197 years.

That, combined with the fact that 2a looks reasonably decent has made it an attractive item for long term investment.

You make good points. Plus, a few billion gp in 2021 isn't what it used to be, especially for me. Maybe knowing that there is 75 of each armor piece resolves any uncertainty that was in people's minds. That being said, people have always known them to be extremely rare; the drop rates were made public by Jagex over a year ago and they continued to remain low for most of its history. The Item Discussion section has no shortage of merchants promoting the 'rarity' of whatever item they already own lots of. If you are willing to chuck your most precious possessions like phats because someone said words like crashing/dying/quitting and then find yourself unable to rebuy for what you sold for, then you don't deserve to own a phat.

10-Mar-2021 17:20:28

Burgunndy
Dec Member 2022

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If 2a mage top and bottom are trading for 4b each piece then 2b for a melee plate is a bargain.

Obviously thats subjective, but how I see it also follows sound financial advice.

This game has no taxes, no bills and no real money sink. People can be infinitely rich. Especially people who dont care about getting 200m xp.

Realistically, one person in 2021 could buy up most of if not all of 2a themselves.

10-Mar-2021 21:00:05 - Last edited on 10-Mar-2021 21:02:59 by Burgunndy

Burgunndy
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Lets also take a trip back in history. Druidic robe top and bottom at their height were over 12b+ for the two pieces. This was during a period of time when phats were still in the GE, people were much poorer (comparatively speaking to now) and the pieces were WAY LESS rare than the 2a pieces drop rate as of right now.

10-Mar-2021 21:19:00 - Last edited on 10-Mar-2021 21:19:37 by Burgunndy

nyxiah

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It's very obvious that merchers are having some fun and that's okay.

I do think that most of us were/are aware of the rarity so I don't think it plays a big factor. I think some merchers have realised that they could hoard most pieces so they went for it.

@Don Corleown

Druidic was actually not "Less rarer" than 2a (back in 2010) - Doing clues back then was a lot harder than now, and you could not stack them.

The reason why it reached 15b+ top/skirt was because of gamblers and because of the very low volume. That's why it rose from 1b t+s to 15b+.

Also something very interesting: Even 3rd age druidic on OSRS is rarer than 2a pieces on RS3, since I have estimated that there's only around 40-50 pieces of each
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10-Mar-2021 21:46:55

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