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I too was scratching my head a bit while watching the livestream, wondering what were the motivations behind these changes. Mod Osbourne said they wanted to increase the number of players penguin hunting, OK great.
However adding two new penguins, one which seems almost impossible to find, is that really enough of an incentive to do the D&D? Will two extra points and a casket suddenly bring the masses back to Penguin hunting? I doubt it but let’s see.
A new pet and some titles, cool. Not going to bring new hunters to the activity once those are obtained though.
The hints are better, less ambiguous, Great news! But who really uses the hint process to find a penguin? Random hunters? Hardly. It’s mainly used by those dedicated to finding the ghost penguin, and even those can be counted in small numbers. Besides, hints have been an option to spy a penguin for many years now. How many players do it that way? Will hunters suddenly think, "hey let's spy penguins again since we can get better clues"? I don't think so.
Even on the livestream when the Jmod got the clue “somewhere in Misthalin” he skipped it as he knew that one would take ages to find, even with the scan option! (plus they didn't even know where "banana smugglers dwell was"
. So what random hunter is going to use the hint feature, even with better clues? They hardly now. Not to mention, why bother if the penguins are trapped on one world anyway and widely advertised across social media? Why would you use the hints?
We can scan for a penguin now, awesome, but you still have to know where to go to start scanning. It will be handy if you are already in the area it is known and just can’t see it immediately (think McGrubor’s Woods). I don’t think this will suddenly incentivize hordes to return to penguins though.
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However adding two new penguins, one which seems almost impossible to find, is that really enough of an incentive to do the D&D? Will two extra points and a casket suddenly bring the masses back to Penguin hunting? I doubt it but let’s see.
A new pet and some titles, cool. Not going to bring new hunters to the activity once those are obtained though.
The hints are better, less ambiguous, Great news! But who really uses the hint process to find a penguin? Random hunters? Hardly. It’s mainly used by those dedicated to finding the ghost penguin, and even those can be counted in small numbers. Besides, hints have been an option to spy a penguin for many years now. How many players do it that way? Will hunters suddenly think, "hey let's spy penguins again since we can get better clues"? I don't think so.
Even on the livestream when the Jmod got the clue “somewhere in Misthalin” he skipped it as he knew that one would take ages to find, even with the scan option! (plus they didn't even know where "banana smugglers dwell was"
. So what random hunter is going to use the hint feature, even with better clues? They hardly now. Not to mention, why bother if the penguins are trapped on one world anyway and widely advertised across social media? Why would you use the hints?
We can scan for a penguin now, awesome, but you still have to know where to go to start scanning. It will be handy if you are already in the area it is known and just can’t see it immediately (think McGrubor’s Woods). I don’t think this will suddenly incentivize hordes to return to penguins though.
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02-Sep-2020 08:15:27 - Last edited on 02-Sep-2020 08:21:35 by Canada Grrl
You can zap a penguin to freeze for a bit. Yay? This will be handy when the peng is getting away from you or being moved, certainly. But if a peng is in a trap already, not much use for it. Again, is this feature going to make a player think, “yeah, now is the time to start spying penguins!”. Probably not.
Ultimately, I have faith in the inherent laziness of humans.
Players are not suddenly going to start doing something when there is an easier and more efficient way to do that thing. It’s easier and more efficient to use the penguin fc or the website or the thread or Reddit to find the trapped penguins. Can you find them yourself using clues and scanning, sure you can, enjoy it. But truly, like I said above, how many players are going to do that? Or start doing that if they haven’t before? I doubt many.
I can only see a huge increase in hunters if the xp reward has doubled, which from the livestream it might mean it has, if we buy small lamps at 1 pt each. That would be more than double what we get now as a reward of level x 40 x points. That is an incentive to hunt. Even if hunters increase, they will still want to hunt efficiently and with least effort.
I don’t see a huge drop in players working together to find and spy the penguins. Those that religiously do it weekly I believe, will still continue to, even after the novelty of scanning and such wears off. Again, the ease of having all the pengs in one spot to walk up to and spy is too good to ignore for players. Would you rather have to spend the time working out where a peng is and finding it, or just ask, “where is Zan?” and be told its south of the bank in the OWB?
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Ultimately, I have faith in the inherent laziness of humans.
Players are not suddenly going to start doing something when there is an easier and more efficient way to do that thing. It’s easier and more efficient to use the penguin fc or the website or the thread or Reddit to find the trapped penguins. Can you find them yourself using clues and scanning, sure you can, enjoy it. But truly, like I said above, how many players are going to do that? Or start doing that if they haven’t before? I doubt many.
I can only see a huge increase in hunters if the xp reward has doubled, which from the livestream it might mean it has, if we buy small lamps at 1 pt each. That would be more than double what we get now as a reward of level x 40 x points. That is an incentive to hunt. Even if hunters increase, they will still want to hunt efficiently and with least effort.
I don’t see a huge drop in players working together to find and spy the penguins. Those that religiously do it weekly I believe, will still continue to, even after the novelty of scanning and such wears off. Again, the ease of having all the pengs in one spot to walk up to and spy is too good to ignore for players. Would you rather have to spend the time working out where a peng is and finding it, or just ask, “where is Zan?” and be told its south of the bank in the OWB?
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02-Sep-2020 08:17:34
Things are going to be a little crazy in the first two months of this release because of the early bird and the comp req’s as well the fact that on Sept 30th the limitations on Arch are lifted. Penguin points will be a nice boost at that point so players will want to hunt for that reason also (that is where my points will be going!). So don’t worry Armo, there will be lots for you to still do. (Be sure to be at the meeting, we’ll have a lot to discuss and an Action Plan
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Nevertheless, we will have to see over the coming months how these changes affect penguin spying as a whole. Maybe we will see a lot more players, maybe we will have more people doing it solo. The penguins will still need to be trapped though, so I have complete faith that will still happen for some time to come.
What I really want to know though is ... who made that model for the toadstool disguise!?!? It’s horrible! Even the Jmod moderating the livestream (who had no clue about anything about penguins) called it “the wizard penguin”. These new models are going to mess with the lore I think and quests where we see other pengs.
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Nevertheless, we will have to see over the coming months how these changes affect penguin spying as a whole. Maybe we will see a lot more players, maybe we will have more people doing it solo. The penguins will still need to be trapped though, so I have complete faith that will still happen for some time to come.
What I really want to know though is ... who made that model for the toadstool disguise!?!? It’s horrible! Even the Jmod moderating the livestream (who had no clue about anything about penguins) called it “the wizard penguin”. These new models are going to mess with the lore I think and quests where we see other pengs.
02-Sep-2020 08:17:49 - Last edited on 02-Sep-2020 08:20:32 by Canada Grrl
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