RuneScape Forum Archive | Return to the Desert

Nov

2023

Xalha

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To answer the original post, I think a return to the desert is highly likely at some point in the upcoming storylines. Whether we'll see it directly or indirectly isn't clear.

Mod Jack mentioned after Legacy of Zamorak (and Misthalin and Asgarnia following that) we may see the desert revisited, but it's unclear if this will be its own storyline or incorporated into the seasonal storytelling.

I'd personally love to see Rowley do a dedicated desert finale, but if we get a desert 'finale' given they're moving away from requiring entire questlines to follow the current story it's likely we'll see Amascut dealt with within the scope of another storyline.

Although this definitely doesn't preclude a separate desert finale being made while we're within another storyline. Things like Once Upon a Time in Gielinor took up quite a bit of art and technical budget yet weren't part of the EGW storyline, so I'd love to see it regardless.

17-Jul-2022 01:54:40

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2006

Dilbert2001

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I certainly think you misunderstand what the Jmods are talking about. They mean we will still see threats, and strong conflicts in the world, not just one "kingdom". Just that we are not going to get Elder Gods that we can't kill for a while doesn't mean we will only see cows and goblins.

Quoting what you quoted:

https://imgur.com/Jf9NkPG

They clearly mentioned we will be dealing with something that can menace us, at the level we can manage. Rest assured it doesn't mean we will be menaced by the Lumbridge goblins and cows. It is not like the Great Revision which was pretty much ended by Seren because Guthix didn't give us the powers to defend Gielinor against the Elder Gods, but we are going to fight civil wars, world wars instead of God Wars.

Don't forget we still have godlike Mahjarrat and Dragonkin to deal with, and perhaps the even more godlike Xau-Tak and the Shadows. Particularly the Dactyl Dragonkin still have unfinished business with us. Don't forget although these races can't nuke Gielinor like the Elder Gods, they can certainly menace us like they can menace V and Lucien. However, it is proven we can handle even Kerapac. They are still big threats to the world but the ones the World Guardian can handle at our level.

17-Jul-2022 04:37:12

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2020

Rensler

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Support, this questline should have been brought to the 6th age years ago with Tumeken being revealed to still be alive. I am interested to see what role he will play in the series with the new edicts established and if they can even play a role. I just hope it isnt done lazily and him killed as a shortcut. Supporter of

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17-Jul-2022 06:25:17

Nov

2023

Xalha

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Dilbert2001 said :
^^
I certainly think you misunderstand what the Jmods are talking about. They mean we will still see threats, and strong conflicts in the world, not just one "kingdom". Just that we are not going to get Elder Gods that we can't kill for a while doesn't mean we will only see cows and goblins.

Quoting what you quoted:

https://imgur.com/Jf9NkPG

They clearly mentioned we will be dealing with something that can menace us, at the level we can manage. Rest assured it doesn't mean we will be menaced by the Lumbridge goblins and cows. It is not like the Great Revision which was pretty much ended by Seren because Guthix didn't give us the powers to defend Gielinor against the Elder Gods, but we are going to fight civil wars, world wars instead of God Wars.

Don't forget we still have godlike Mahjarrat and Dragonkin to deal with, and perhaps the even more godlike Xau-Tak and the Shadows. Particularly the Dactyl Dragonkin still have unfinished business with us. Don't forget although these races can't nuke Gielinor like the Elder Gods, they can certainly menace us like they can menace V and Lucien. However, it is proven we can handle even Kerapac. They are still big threats to the world but the ones the World Guardian can handle at our level.

This is...exactly what I said. I'm not misunderstanding anything and I don't think you read my post lol. We aren't getting Erebus for a few years and will get smaller, more human-sized threats. After Legacy of Zamorak Jagex is working on a Kingdoms storyline. You should join the RS discord and you'd know this.

Whether the conclusion with Amascut will factor into their plans is unclear but I think whatever they end up doing with it will have to factor into a "season" as I imagine it'll require quite a lot of assets, but I can't see it not fitting into some aspect of their storyline. It's unlikely that we'll get "true" closure with Tumeken though due to the

17-Jul-2022 10:35:18 - Last edited on 17-Jul-2022 10:43:41 by Xalha

Nov

2023

Xalha

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Rensler said :
Support, this questline should have been brought to the 6th age years ago with Tumeken being revealed to still be alive. I am interested to see what role he will play in the series with the new edicts established and if they can even play a role. I just hope it isnt done lazily and him killed as a shortcut.

It makes me wonder if the questline will be taken off-world. They've been teasing Tumeken for years, ramped up since 2012's desert quest reworks, and now that the Edicts are back in place it kind of screams that they've ran out of time to properly deal with the desert and with Tumeken. I had expected him to return with Menaphos.

I know they're reluctant to focus on things that will require knowledge of a lot of very, very old questlines, and would rather start a new storyline that also serves as a sequel to older quests (Desperate Times being the sequel to Sliske's Endgame), but I can't really see how where we left Amascut in 'Phite Club can be dealt with otherwise.

I presume what'll end up happening is we'll see a soft reset of the desert quests alongside either a rework of the older quests, or a "bypass" if you like where a season of content would spark a revisiting of Al-Kharid and then delve into the Kharid-Ib and Amascut. That way the older content doesn't need a rework or removal, but it can still eventually result in a desert finale. Given the current focus is on the aftermath of Zamorak and the resulting power vacuum, and the storyline from next year seems to focus on the effects of EGW and the demon invasions on the various human kingdoms , if we don't see the desert as part of that I'd wonder if it'll be given its own season after. It's been five years after all since we last visited.

17-Jul-2022 10:40:25 - Last edited on 17-Jul-2022 10:40:49 by Xalha

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2006

Dilbert2001

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Xalha said :

This is...exactly what I said. I'm not misunderstanding anything and I don't think you read my post lol. We aren't getting Erebus for a few years and will get smaller, more human-sized threats. After Legacy of Zamorak Jagex is working on a Kingdoms storyline. You should join the RS discord and you'd know this.

Whether the conclusion with Amascut will factor into their plans is unclear but I think whatever they end up doing with it will have to factor into a "season" as I imagine it'll require quite a lot of assets, but I can't see it not fitting into some aspect of their storyline. It's unlikely tha

Size of threats definitely has no relationship to the size of the ones who cause the threat.

We already know many creatures can change sizes. We know Mahjarrat is not "human size" just that they can show up as humans. Don't tell us Moia and Bilrach are "human size" threats.

Aren't all those Moia, Mahjarrat, Dragonkin, Desert Gods stories already happening in the "kingdoms"? I don't see any new "kingdoms" storyline as we are all are progressing through them for years. The only new "kingdoms" that we haven't encounter yet is the Kingdom of Shadows as shown in Kerapac's journal. But this may also be something we have already engaged in but don't have the details yet, as it may just be Erebus.

17-Jul-2022 14:59:01

Nov

2023

Xalha

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Dilbert2001 said :
Xalha said :

This is...exactly what I said. I'm not misunderstanding anything and I don't think you read my post lol. We aren't getting Erebus for a few years and will get smaller, more human-sized threats. After Legacy of Zamorak Jagex is working on a Kingdoms storyline. You should join the RS discord and you'd know this.

Whether the conclusion with Amascut will factor into their plans is unclear but I think whatever they end up doing with it will have to factor into a "season" as I imagine it'll require quite a lot of assets, but I can't see it not fitting into some aspect of their storyline. It's unlikely tha

Size of threats definitely has no relationship to the size of the ones who cause the threat.

We already know many creatures can change sizes. We know Mahjarrat is not "human size" just that they can show up as humans. Don't tell us Moia and Bilrach are "human size" threats.

Aren't all those Moia, Mahjarrat, Dragonkin, Desert Gods stories already happening in the "kingdoms"? I don't see any new "kingdoms" storyline as we are all are progressing through them for years. The only new "kingdoms" that we haven't encounter yet is the Kingdom of Shadows as shown in Kerapac's journal. But this may also be something we have already engaged in but don't have the details yet, as it may just be Erebus.

“Human sized threats” doesn’t mean their physical size or appearance… it means threats that we as humans can deal with directly. Are you trolling?

As for the upcoming kingdoms storyline/a potential future storyline with the desert I recommend you join the RuneScape discord. Mod Jack in particular often talks about it. This is derailing the thread so I’m going to stop this discussion here.

17-Jul-2022 19:02:42

Jun

2006

Dilbert2001

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We, the World Guardian, have definitely been able to deal with "human sized" threats like the Dragonkin, Mahjarrat, Desert god like Amascut and the 4 demi-gods, as well as all kinds of Black Hand minions. The undeniable fact is we don't need World Guardian's powers to handle them at all. We just flat out beating them with our human sized brains and muscles.

No difference whatsoever in term of continuing the Desert Quest. Whatever beings staying on Gielinor are definitely not affected by Guthix new Edicts and therefore not the divine beings that Guthix's Gift can affect.

That said, it is highly likely we will see the continuation of our desert adventure and will be confronting not just Amascut but the actual master of corruption pulling the strings behind all those corrupted creature. We are going to adventures into the high tides including the Deseert corruption storyline just as what we always do, only that there are no Grand Revision to sidetrack us for a while. We are not going to bake cakes and do cook's assistant in the coming years.

We are going to have a grand storyline that all the isolated stories with corruptions involved will converge into, mind them Amascut and the corrupted pharoah, shadow breach in Fresake leading to Mah's madness, all the corrupted creatures and cultists all over ED 1 - 3, the Skeletal Horror and the Nabor's Madness, Bilrach's insanity and the kidnapping of Moia, etc etc etc.

Yes, we will be revisiting the desert. So will we be revisiting all the other Mahjarrat, Dragonkin, Black Hand, Daemonheim and such storylines, when we finally unveil the master of corruption.

17-Jul-2022 19:36:26

Jun

2006

Dilbert2001

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Ian Adler said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Ian Adler said :
Dilbert2001 said :
The Zamorak Boss quest answered your question already.

Guthix Edicts only work on beings emitting certain kind of "divine energies". Desert gods, although also divine in nature, may emit a different kind of divine energies, perhaps of different wavelength and such? Guthix has no (or not enough) powers to interfere with different kinds of "divine" beings.

This may alao imply Tumeken might have come from different part of the multiverse that native gods around Gelinor may have no knowledge of.

Granted, but that was the least important matter. The bottom line is that the Desert series should be finished.

Finished? More like new stories of much bigger magnitude than the desert is starting rather. Xau-Tak and Erebus are far more important than the liveless desert.

Since when are quest-lines just abandoned? Believe me, I will be the first to cheer when new Xau-Tak and Erebus content comes out, but the Desert Quest series is one of the oldest in the game and deserves to be completed.

When about new Xau-Tak content is what finishes the Desert quest as well as many other mysteries like the madness of Mah and the elite dungeons, and this actually turn into new desert quests?

I can see the continuation of the Desert quest because it is important, but the next quest may not be the end of this quest line but actually a converging point of many other mysteries.

18-Jul-2022 01:10:41

Jun

2006

Dilbert2001

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This Jmod Q&A comment should tell us what they are planning with the older quest series:

"We could have delayed Extinction to September and done a Gnome finale, and that would have derailed the momentum of the Elder Gods storyline.

Instead we could fold/integrate it in the incomplete series into the existing storylines such as with Demons in Twilight of the Gods.

"

https://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/v7y6g9/tldw_539_june_developer_qa/

Fold/integrate desert and gnome series into existing storylines such as Skeletal Horror, Black Stone, 'Till Death Do Us Apart etc sounds like a plan.

18-Jul-2022 02:01:37

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