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A  Cole
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According to today's news article:

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You'll need level 90 Archaeology to get started in Orthen, although level requirements vary between excavation spots.

You might also want to have completed Desperate Measures, which will help you out with some of the later areas.
"

And on the livestream, Mod Osbourne said:

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A soft requirement of Desperate Measures.
"


My question is, do we need Desperate Measures or not?


Is Desperate Measures only required to get the full story, i.e. lore? Or do we need it to be able to complete the collections / access relics / etc.?

The terminology used in both the livestream and the news post alludes to DM only being helpful towards completing the content, and not a requirement for it. However, given that it's mentioned now makes me believe that it is an actual requirement for completing the content.

Can anybody please clarify this?


~A~

06-Oct-2020 19:12:58

Dilbert2001
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My feeling is Desperate Measures is not required, but very helpful, in makin progress in the Orthen DIgsite. For instance, they mentioned there are new ways to get to different locations (which means Orthen Digsite is actually many digsites instead of just one), perhaps the new ways of commuting may require the completion of Desperate Measures.

06-Oct-2020 19:34:31 - Last edited on 06-Oct-2020 19:34:49 by Dilbert2001

Lions RAWR
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A  Cole said :
According to today's news article:

"
You'll need level 90 Archaeology to get started in Orthen, although level requirements vary between excavation spots.

You might also want to have completed Desperate Measures, which will help you out with some of the later areas.
"

And on the livestream, Mod Osbourne said:

"
A soft requirement of Desperate Measures.
"


My question is, do we need Desperate Measures or not?


Is Desperate Measures only required to get the full story, i.e. lore? Or do we need it to be able to complete the collections / access relics / etc.?


I believe you are going to need to complete Desperate Measures in order to access some of the areas and artifacts.

It may even be needed ( a soft requirement could simply mean starting the quest) in order to access the digsite itself. This one I feel more strongly about because the Digsite is linked to the current storyline and it would not make sense to just be able to get access to it w/o the quest. Time to follow an trail of Treasure.
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06-Oct-2020 20:19:55 - Last edited on 06-Oct-2020 20:33:16 by Lions RAWR

A  Cole
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Lions RAWR said :
I believe you are going to need to complete Desperate Measures in order to access some of the areas and artifacts.

It may even be needed ( a soft requirement could simply mean starting the quest) in order to access the digsite itself. This one I feel more strongly about because the Digsite is linked to the current storyline and it would not make sense to just be able to get access to it w/o the quest. I've heard from other sources that the digsite is interwoven into the story, hence another reason why I've created this thread.

However, due to the combat requirements, requiring even to start the quest is going to lock out skillers from this content. I'm not complaining if this is the case as skillers have been locked out of high level skilling content before. It'd just be good to find out now rather than hype it up only for us to be left disappointed upon release.


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06-Oct-2020 20:55:39

Dilbert2001
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A  Cole said :
Lions RAWR said :
I believe you are going to need to complete Desperate Measures in order to access some of the areas and artifacts.

It may even be needed ( a soft requirement could simply mean starting the quest) in order to access the digsite itself. This one I feel more strongly about because the Digsite is linked to the current storyline and it would not make sense to just be able to get access to it w/o the quest. I've heard from other sources that the digsite is interwoven into the story, hence another reason why I've created this thread.

However, due to the combat requirements, requiring even to start the quest is going to lock out skillers from this content. I'm not complaining if this is the case as skillers have been locked out of high level skilling content before. It'd just be good to find out now rather than hype it up only for us to be left disappointed upon release.


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Desperate Measures has no combat requirements actually, 75 combat is only recommended but absolutely not required. Players lower than 75 combat can complete it and don't forget there are Deathtouched Darts in RS3.

The way that Mod Osborne worded it, Desperate Measures is helpful but not required for some endgame level content, much like Desperate Times is helpful but not required for some endgame level content in Anachronia (except the Desperate Measures quest).

06-Oct-2020 21:09:09

A  Cole
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For both Desperate Measures and the lead up quests, you require combat. Yes, there are Death Touched Darts, but these tend to be hard to come by / based on luck.

It'd be good to know now if we need to be looking into these alternative methods of completing the quests, or whether we can just ignore the quests and still be able to access all the excavation sites.


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06-Oct-2020 21:22:39

Dilbert2001
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A  Cole said :
For both Desperate Measures and the lead up quests, you require combat. Yes, there are Death Touched Darts, but these tend to be hard to come by / based on luck.

It'd be good to know now if we need to be looking into these alternative methods of completing the quests, or whether we can just ignore the quests and still be able to access all the excavation sites.


~A~

DTD can be brought from the travelling merchant in DSP. It is not hard to come by at all.

If somebody can't kill a normal level 140 mob that the other 75 combat or lower can kill, he certainly can't even enter Priffdinas anyway.

This is all just a mood point anyway as all the other digsites as well as Anachronia itself don't require ay quests. I see no reason why the Orthen DIgsites have to be different.

06-Oct-2020 21:42:47

A  Cole
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I don't see why this digsite should be any different to the rest of Anachronia either, but the language used in the teasers makes me feel that it may be different.

Yes, there is the Deep Sea Fishing merchant, but DTD are not in stock often, and if you are not online that one day, you have to wait even longer. Bear in mind that it stocks one (sometimes two) at a time, and there are multiple enemies in this quest series. They may be "easy" to come by, but they're not common.


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06-Oct-2020 22:21:59

Dilbert2001
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A  Cole said :
I don't see why this digsite should be any different to the rest of Anachronia either, but the language used in the teasers makes me feel that it may be different.

Yes, there is the Deep Sea Fishing merchant, but DTD are not in stock often, and if you are not online that one day, you have to wait even longer. Bear in mind that it stocks one (sometimes two) at a time, and there are multiple enemies in this quest series. They may be "easy" to come by, but they're not common.


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To me the message in the news post is pretty clear. Desperate Measures "help you out" certainly doesn't mean it locks you out of the content.

If you haven't done Desperate Measueres and can't kill a level 140 mob that average Joe 75 combat players can, I have good news for you. There is not another enemy you need to kill except a strategic wave of dinos which actually doesn't require any level of combat. So you don't need more than 1 DTD at all.

06-Oct-2020 22:38:28

A  Cole
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I'm just going by what the wiki says, and there are several monsters in the quest
series
. Obviously you know better than me as you've done it and I have not. If it's just the one monster then I suppose there'll be no issue in completing this quest series.

I just want to know if I have to. It's not clear to me at all.


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06-Oct-2020 22:56:45

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