RuneScape Forum Archive | Wilderness opt in PVP?

Jun

2006

Dilbert2001

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f a k e news said :
I wonder if there will be measures taken to combat wildy botting like for cursed energy now I hope so.

How does botting have anything to do with pvp, wildy or not? AFAIK in RS3 they always use the same anti-botting system system across every piece of content. They won't have double standards between botting in wildy or not, or pvp area or not. Neither do they ever have any needs for Jmod busting events like OSRS or RS2.

15-May-2022 18:08:29

Aug

2013

Jeremy Cheng

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Reintroduce Roaming Revenants to counteract the now safe from pkers wildy. There could be two different wildies, one without pvp but with roaming revenants and one with pvp and without roaming revenants.

16-May-2022 03:33:15

May

2022

Scombridus

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Jeremy Cheng said :
Reintroduce Roaming Revenants to counteract the now safe from pkers wildy. There could be two different wildies, one without pvp but with roaming revenants and one with pvp and without roaming revenants.
I think revs are a lazy solution. I prefer them to pkers but they don't make the wilderness any more engaging.

I've always wished the wilderness was an actual "wilderness" zone- like an open-world dungeoneering-esque endurance test where you need to use all of your skills to succeed in whatever you set out to get from it.

22-May-2022 22:17:28

Deltaslug

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Jeremy Cheng said :
Reintroduce Roaming Revenants to counteract the now safe from pkers wildy. There could be two different wildies, one without pvp but with roaming revenants and one with pvp and without roaming revenants.

They already said in that same live stream they won't be bringing back the revs. or more accurately using them as the risk mechanic liek they did 07-11

23-May-2022 13:00:14

Feb

2022

Genuisdragon

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I'm fine with the Wilderness becoming Opt-In/Out pvp. There's really no reason for it not to happen. I currently refuse to go into the Wilderness unless it's for a clue scroll. A big issue I don't see many people talking about are the scammers who lure players into the Wilderness or use Skull Tricking (one player wears the shade robes while another attacks) causing players who are panicking to click on a player and become skulled so their buddy can kill them and get their loot, or the players who disguise themselves as the Zamorak mage and wait for players to click on them instead of the npc so they can kill them for their loot (even if they don't have the demonic skull). Personally I'm fine with just removing pvp from the Wilderness or making any player vs player death in the Wilderness a safe death (think the white portal in clan wars or the duel function).

29-May-2022 21:56:35

Mar

2008

Pachuli714

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@Genuisdragon

I think it's not as big an issue as the griefers who lie in wait camping at popular spots where non-PKers/skillers frequent. Hopefully, all of the warnings get to enough of the newer players that they don't keep falling for these lures, scams and tricks but at some point, you can only do so much to warn people. It's ultimately up to them to sometimes learn the hard way when to trust their insticts and avoid something that sounds too good to be true.

Wildy however has spent the past several years just adding more and more non-PKing content in order to lure skillers there to act as bait for camping PKers and that's a real problem. I'm really anxious to learn exactly what terms and conditions will be linked to this opt-in thing since I worry that Jagex will still try and use players as bait in some way by wording the option in such a way that they may still find themselves getting griefed despite choosing not to fight.

As it currently stands, I can't recall the last time I saw two players really going at it in Wildy. Usually, it's some player who's determined to teach some noob PKer a lesson by beating up on him and to end his camping/killing of skillers in a specific area. There just really doesn't seem to be very many players that interested in really PKing anymore which begs the question why is this still an issue?

30-May-2022 13:14:59

Oct

2023

T Olvana

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Pachuli714 said :
@Genuisdragon

I think it's not as big an issue as the griefers who lie in wait camping at popular spots where non-PKers/skillers frequent. Hopefully, all of the warnings get to enough of the newer players that they don't keep falling for these lures, scams and tricks but at some point, you can only do so much to warn people. It's ultimately up to them to sometimes learn the hard way when to trust their insticts and avoid something that sounds too good to be true.

Wildy however has spent the past several years just adding more and more non-PKing content in order to lure skillers there to act as bait for camping PKers and that's a real problem. I'm really anxious to learn exactly what terms and conditions will be linked to this opt-in thing since I worry that Jagex will still try and use players as bait in some way by wording the option in such a way that they may still find themselves getting griefed despite choosing not to fight.

As it currently stands, I can't recall the last time I saw two players really going at it in Wildy. Usually, it's some player who's determined to teach some noob PKer a lesson by beating up on him and to end his camping/killing of skillers in a specific area. There just really doesn't seem to be very many players that interested in really PKing anymore which begs the question why is this still an issue?

The thing about skillers being attracted to do wilderness content is one of the main problems, I agree. Well said.

30-May-2022 20:05:54

Feb

2022

Genuisdragon

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Genuisdragon said :
I'm fine with the Wilderness becoming Opt-In/Out pvp. There's really no reason for it not to happen. I currently refuse to go into the Wilderness unless it's for a clue scroll. A big issue I don't see many people talking about are the scammers who lure players into the Wilderness or use Skull Tricking (one player wears the shade robes while another attacks) causing players who are panicking to click on a player and become skulled so their buddy can kill them and get their loot, or the players who disguise themselves as the Zamorak mage and wait for players to click on them instead of the npc so they can kill them for their loot (even if they don't have the demonic skull). Personally I'm fine with just removing pvp from the Wilderness or making any player vs player death in the Wilderness a safe death (think the white portal in clan wars or the duel function).
Ya I guess I did forget about some other issues involving the skilling locations and skiller community, but having Opt out pvp would also help the Hardcore Ironman/woman accounts because getting the insane final boss title is extremely hard even for normal accounts. I can see pkers killing a hardcore ironman accounts for no reason other then to be funny (which it isn't) by prevent them from getting this title since they have a limited amount of lives and there's one boss deep in the Wilderness which griefers like to hang around with their buddy in the shade robes.

12-Jun-2022 21:09:56

May

2022

Scombridus

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Genuisdragon said :
Genuisdragon said :
I'm fine with the Wilderness becoming Opt-In/Out pvp. There's really no reason for it not to happen. I currently refuse to go into the Wilderness unless it's for a clue scroll. A big issue I don't see many people talking about are the scammers who lure players into the Wilderness or use Skull Tricking (one player wears the shade robes while another attacks) causing players who are panicking to click on a player and become skulled so their buddy can kill them and get their loot, or the players who disguise themselves as the Zamorak mage and wait for players to click on them instead of the npc so they can kill them for their loot (even if they don't have the demonic skull). Personally I'm fine with just removing pvp from the Wilderness or making any player vs player death in the Wilderness a safe death (think the white portal in clan wars or the duel function).
Ya I guess I did forget about some other issues involving the skilling locations and skiller community, but having Opt out pvp would also help the Hardcore Ironman/woman accounts because getting the insane final boss title is extremely hard even for normal accounts. I can see pkers killing a hardcore ironman accounts for no reason other then to be funny (which it isn't) by prevent them from getting this title since they have a limited amount of lives and there's one boss deep in the Wilderness which griefers like to hang around with their buddy in the shade robes.
I've never had sympathy for open-world PVPers in any game.
Give them an inch and they'll use it to grief as much as they can.

14-Jun-2022 18:48:56

HC Whatusay

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I'm ignoring most comments here because almost none of them interest me.

If anybody really wants to PvP, go to old school. PvP is literally overly abundant and prominent there. Finding a good fight will never be a problem for you ever again.

It should not be fun for anybody to go world hopping to kill a few safecrackers for 1k, or at most 35k each over hours at a time. There is no benefit besides wasting time and that just makes you trash.

Old School is literally made for PvP. If you can't handle it there, then maybe you simply shouldn't be asking for PvP, because you are obviously too weak for the real challenge and only escape to rs3 to feel better about yourself by picking on people unarmed. Sad life.

I don't care if some people think the wilderness in Rs3 needs to find some new way to balance out "risk vs reward" because I literally don't see anything in the wilderness that isn't comparable to other safe methods. There shouldn't be any discussion just because some haters don't like the idea of griefing being nerfed.

The Wilderness in terms of training seems made more for mid level players more than anything. And again, Pkers griefing mid level players just because they can, because the person training has to wear a skull that makes them attackable by all is just more proof the pker isn't good at anything else.

Opt-in PvP, if the title describes it as it should be, allows people interested in EoC PvP to fight eachother in the Wilderness, which was originally a battlefield. It also allows people doing area tasks, slayer, theiving, runecrafting, agility, and other things, to train and expand their account as they want without the need to ever complain about a griefer again. If you see a problem with that, you are the problem.

I'm not going to reply to anybody on this, just simply posting my thoughts on it. Would love to see 200m capes.

20-Jun-2022 04:27:50

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