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Charmed Pop

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I had some mixed feelings about the most recent series of quests (mostly in my dislike of the use of pictures for moments that were supposed to be epic) but overall thought they wrapped everything up pretty well narratively. Did they ever address how we can die and be saved by death despite our World Guardian abilities being lost?

I know in one of the more recent quests they hinted that the World Guardian would die for real. This coupled with the fact that they mentioned that death costs are getting a rework makes me think they're going to give us a bit more on where we stand and give us a plausible explanation for why we continue to respawn. Further, the fact that they added the Time Guardian means that they have the ability to add quests that might allow us to revisit The World Guardian stuff without committing to it fully again, or maybe even become a Time Guardian ourselves. I'm totally ready for a penguin series quest that goes full timey wimey!

12-Sep-2022 12:06:45

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@Dilbert
Makes you also appreciate characters like the Wise Old Man who are still technically a tier above the player character.

@Charmed Pop
You're thinking about the Balance Elemental from While Guthix Sleeps saying that line about the World Guardian dying.

If the Once Upon a Time series is accurate, then yes, a true death is inevitable for the World Guardian (player char).

Who is to say the Balance Elemental hadn't gone a little loopy after millennia on the job. The Balance Elemental might have actually held Guthix as the individual in mind as the one that died and had the big funeral et al. Remember that Nomad had a fragment of the player character's soul and technically died twice during Sliske's Endgame.
Perhaps the mention was the player character's death was part of a "ruse". Some elaborate thing in a quest with everyone else involved in a stage event ot catch a villain unawares.
Or perhaps the player character fakes their death in order ot get out of the spotlight once and for all. (Death puts some sort of glamor charm on you such that no one remembers you as who you were ... even Death itself has to forget ... you are the only one to know the truth)
Heck, who is to say you're even actually dead instead of just a form of suspended animation.

Even if you look at it from the Once upon a Time quest, this is Relmonia we're talking about here. Lying or trying to mess with us.
Not like we haven't dealt with alternate timelines before either.

Regardless, the player character isn't going to truly die as long as the game continues going. the player character only dies when you stop playing.

12-Sep-2022 12:55:05 - Last edited on 12-Sep-2022 13:00:51 by Deltaslug

Genuisdragon
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Dilbert2001 said :
Don't forget the World Guardian still has the FSOA. Someday we can use them to kill new or returning naughty gods. The question is whether we will become a god like Zamorak or Guthix or remain mortal like Sliske.

Technically we don't have the FSOA as that is a boss drop and not a quest reward. If it does reappear in a quest it will be in the possession of a NPC. Jagex would never require the player to have a tier 95 weapon worth over 3 billion gp for a quest. If they wanted us to have that weapon for future quest it would have been a tier 75 and have been given to us as a quest reward. You might have the weapon but many players don't. Remember Kerapac brought the weapon with him into Erebus when he tried to trap the Elder God Jas.

12-Sep-2022 17:35:56

Dilbert2001
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Essentially with the concept and ability of time travelling in RS3, we players will never be perma dead regardless we are technically the World Guardian or not.

Now that The Needle is broken, it may take a bit more narrative to have it repaired though but this should not be very hard to do. At least fixing The Needle is easier to tell as a story than finding another way for us to put Shadow Anima in our bodies so we can be technically the World Guardian again.

12-Sep-2022 17:37:47 - Last edited on 12-Sep-2022 17:38:35 by Dilbert2001

Dilbert2001
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Charmed Pop said :
I had some mixed feelings about the most recent series of quests (mostly in my dislike of the use of pictures for moments that were supposed to be epic) but overall thought they wrapped everything up pretty well narratively.
Did they ever address how we can die and be saved by death despite our World Guardian abilities being lost?

I know in one of the more recent quests they hinted that the World Guardian would die for real. This coupled with the fact that they mentioned that death costs are getting a rework makes me think they're going to give us a bit more on where we stand and give us a plausible explanation for why we continue to respawn. Further, the fact that they added the Time Guardian means that they have the ability to add quests that might allow us to revisit The World Guardian stuff without committing to it fully again, or maybe even become a Time Guardian ourselves. I'm totally ready for a penguin series quest that goes full timey wimey!


We probably will have more precise information on what is "death" with Necromancy coming soon, and what exactly happen after something dies. Will we become a ghost, or getting reincarnated into something else like a cat, or we become Runescape's first ever Lich King or Banshee Queen?

06-Mar-2023 23:14:24

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hmm, I did not really think it was time for the gods to go. lots of missed potential here, for example where is the queen of ashes? the story seemed broad and open to many possibilities but now seems like a closed box again. I was hoping we would be fighting more gods, instead just the same handful over and over nothing really new. then bye again, I guess. does divination cease to exist now? I thought divination became a skill because the edicts broke. it's also not clear to me how this spell even exists in the first place without a god powering it, are you saying that someone like zaros can make edicts and block every god from going to his planet? or leave it running forever without anyone actually running the magic? very strange to me and feels unpolished


I thought we can enter erebus because of shadow anima soul. I don't see how losing guthix gift affects this. afaik we gain the ability to run around in there and don't see it related to anti god powers.


as far as fsoa goes, I assumed these were just copies that were created by kerapac time rewinding. I mean we have an entire island of extinct animals we can visit now so I don't think it's too far fetched.
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14-Apr-2023 03:12:30

Dilbert2001
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We have heard from Adrasteia in the Succession quest about what is "death" will be the question we are going to get to later actually. This is also what Necromancy will be about. Even if the World Guardian dies, we can still come back any time to life.

World Guardian is just a title, we don't have to have Guthix's protection against gods to be called the World Guardian. Saradomin still recognized and called us the World Guardian even after we lost the Guthix bestowed power when we banished Zamorak.

When we kick Xau-Tak's butt later without Guthix's powers against gods, we will still the the World Guardian to the World.

16-Apr-2023 15:55:42 - Last edited on 16-Apr-2023 16:38:45 by Dilbert2001

E I E dInO
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The World Guardian power is probably useless against Xau-Tak because even if the latter is a god he is a different kind of god with different kind of divine energies.

If Xau-Tak was Vokun who took the black pebble, the World Guardian can't beat him. Perhaps nothing can, except the Glistening Jewel. So we don't need the World Guardian to return, we need the Duke of Fort Forinthry to find the Gistening Jewel to transform into something mightier.

17-Apr-2023 22:39:11 - Last edited on 18-Apr-2023 00:15:09 by E I E dInO

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