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Dilbert2001
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Crone924 said :
not particularly thrilled with this "buff".

Doing doubled tasks for the same single santa letter and three keys, only to collect all daily rewards for the week a few days early? whoopie.

Okay, okay, the small amount of xp gained from doing each individual task twice to get the same reward, yeah.

But the overall reward is not increased, and the time spent to gain the letter is doubled. Not a buff.

Odd thing last night, received a letter from delivering a present, plus the usual (doubled) challenges and Clementine. Tried some of the grindfest but no additional letter (didn't expect a fourth so much as testing to see if the present letter was a glitch or a surprise bonus).

This event is kind of all over the place.

Would not mind if this "buff" expired at the end of the week.

"An extended challenge will be doubled in length, and the player will receive double the experience reward and Weekly Progress. However, players do not receive double Treasure Hunter keys. A challenge can be extended after progressing on it or even after completing it as long as it has not been handed in. Two challenge tokens are required to complete an extended daily challenge."


https://runescape.wiki/w/Challenge_System#Rerolls_and_extensions

We get DOUBLE the xp reward from an daily challenge extension, which is also granted free during the current Christmas buff week. DOUBLE the daily xp reward is not just a "small amount of xp".

We can get Letters to Santa from doing random Christmas events like delivering parcels or even opening presents. I noticed it from day 1 of the event, but it is not related to the weekly Christmas buff, and it should last the same way until the end of the Letters to Santa and Black Partyhat raffle event.

08-Dec-2023 16:57:22

Crone924
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re the letters, was going by the Christmas event page on the wiki, which lists them as obtainable from Clementine, completing dailies, and engaging in Christmas village xp activities.

I do my dailies anyway year round (except for when they were arbitrarily removed for the abortive Hero Pass, along with all of my accumulated challenge tokens, which were quite a boon when real life intervened and I couldn't log in for long every day), as an incentive to daily train at least a little bit on two skills close to 120, one I loathe and one I'm burned out on.

If we are indeed getting double xp from the "buff", so much the better, however, does not change my opinion that in regards to the Christmas event, as opposed to regular year-round daily rerolls or extensions, I am doing twice the grind for the same reward of the daily letter, and the same three keys (which at least have a chance at lamps for something I want xp in, rather than the grinds at the village which I am not as interested in).

Again, the buff can expire as far as I'm concerned. My dailies are my dailies--don't make me do them twice a day to get the same seasonal letter, for the same chance at a prize very few will get, and very few will be able to afford on the market when the event is past..

08-Dec-2023 18:09:30

Dilbert2001
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As I mentioned, I am 100% sure the extra Letter to Santa doesn't come from this daily challenge buff weekly event, as I have obtained random Letters from different Christmas activities last week and BEFORE the beginning of this week's buff. What you quoted about the methods to get the Letter may not be complete information, but it is a different story.

You are not doing twice the grind for the same rewards. You are getting DOUBLE daily challenge XP, which is a lot, and that's why a lot of players spend wax vis to extend their daily challenges.

Besides, if you think cutting 10 more logs or pickpocketing 10 more guards a day for like 30 seconds more are so much "grind" for you, you don't have to do it daily. You can do one daily challenge every two days for the same "grind" and the same rewards.

08-Dec-2023 18:18:10

Qwis7
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you get 1 daily letter form the imp.
One form daily challanges.
One form festive activity each day.

I agree a toggle for the forced double challenge was a nice thing, but I do a lot double tasks anyways a free week of doubles feels nice. :D

08-Dec-2023 18:50:28

Crone924
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Qwis7, I guess the santa sack is a festive activity--just had not had one yet from doing that, and I've done it every day.

Dilbert, I'm going to take my heart in my hand here and say with hopeful futility: read.

I only have two skills toggled, in order to force myself to finish them.

They are archaeology, and dungeoneering.

Let's say I get two dung, and one arch for my dailies; yes, it is a grind to do two more dung floors, far more than "10 more logs" etc. (and please don't segue off into a rhapsody on sinkholes. We've had that discussion before too, and yes, two of those would be a grind, as would two more shifting tombs. I mean, have at it justifying if you like, but no, you can't justify it for me.)

Two arch is easier if I get that, but still more time consuming than I desire, especially if I go excavate at 115+ digs for more xp instead of cheap out and go to a basic dig to crack off four easy artifacts.

If there is double xp, okay, good.

Does not change the FACT, as I said (now for the third time), that it is twice the work for one daily LETTER, which is a major incentive during this event.

Carry on.

08-Dec-2023 19:26:01

Dilbert2001
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@Crone924

Do you want more xp or not? If you want more xp in Archaeology and Dungeoneering why will you hate to "grind" 2 floors and get double bonus xp?

"Grinding" 2 times floor 1 at difficulty 1 takes literally a minute each, and reward you with tens of thousands of xp which you certainly can't get from doing regular DG floors. Why will you hate it?

As for Archaeology, it takes even less time than cutting 10 logs. Literally, restoring damaged artifacts takes just 5 seconds.

Furthermore, as I mentioned, if you really have a problem for "grinding" seconds more a day, you can do one daily challenge every 2 days. You will then be spending the same amount of time "grinding" and collecting the normal rewards like with no buffs event going.

08-Dec-2023 19:36:31 - Last edited on 08-Dec-2023 19:38:25 by Dilbert2001

Crone924
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As I said, carry on.

(and don't address that the challenge letter now has three extra hoops to jump through for the same letter. All you're justifying is the grindfest aspect of what holidays have become)

08-Dec-2023 19:39:40 - Last edited on 08-Dec-2023 19:42:05 by Crone924

Dilbert2001
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Crone924 said :
As I said, carry on.

(and don't address that the challenge letter now has three extra hoops to jump through for the same letter. All you're justifying is the grindfest aspect of what holidays have become)

Please explain what "grindfest aspect" of what holidays?

As I explained, it only take a minute to complete a DG floor or literally just 5 seconds to restore an damaged Archaeology Artifacts. Better yet, you can do one daily challenge every 2 days for the same time spent with the same rewards.

08-Dec-2023 19:47:35

Crone924
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rotflmao!

You know exactly what a grindfest is.

It is that holiday events are now grind activities for easy xp in skills that some people (see: often combat junkies, except for the beach which has the dung hole) don't care for, so are catered to by standing around doing repetitive tasks for tokens to buy old items they may not have been here for, that used to be special when holiday events weren't MTX token grinds, but a fun themed quest (like this year's, which will be repeatable lest they have to exercise any new creativity next time when untradeable rares become available again for...a few minutes of grinding) with a fun reward that everyone got just for being there and having the fun.

You are not addressing it, and now diverting, because there is no way to rah-rah what I said.

Twice the daily work for the same daily letter, in order to maximize our LIMITED chances for a billionaire's rare.

Not a buff, except for the xp grind. (and grind it is when you aren't thrilled with the skill--just ask any bosser who had to train herb when untradeable pots came out. ...and then herb became a popular...event grindfest feature.)

08-Dec-2023 19:58:19

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