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The It King
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^I think it's high time people stop making general statements such as "The Obbys are power hungry", in essense "The obbys are meanies"
That is comparable to a certain famous German saying "All Jewish people are greedy",
It is comparable to a certain race of Africans calling another Inferior, and thus slaughtering them with machetes.
I am not calling you either of these things, that would be stupid.
It's that same mindset, however -- that brings such events about.

15-May-2011 09:05:24 - Last edited on 15-May-2011 10:04:01 by The It King

Silent Fate

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Ok i was almost hoping that this war of words would end w/ the follow up from redwine's post but since it hasn't well next round. I have been in obbyclans for almost 2 years now, and note I said obbyclans,there are 3 distinct points in our history. the time of kings knights and warriors. Obbys now are paying still for the sins committed by kings and knights. you say we warred other ccs this is true, how ever after morteblanche was removed from leadership, we largely ceased offensive warring. I'm not going to say it was all morte's fault... that is incredibly naive, but I will say this when morte was removed from our cc we lost about 60% of our ranks and 80% of our members. the next week swa invaded w145,
It was basically DS and xxdeath doing all the work while obbys farmed zeal on world 44. You can't send 10 people and say you helped a lot in a war.
Are you aware of the events going on at the time? many times even during the day 10 ppl was half our cc... swa who i rarely credit w/ any amount of brains were smart to pick to invade zombies when they did they had a large influx of our ranks and members, and 1/4 of the opposition was out of the fight
As to Lady Kalvins's comment morte didnt do much w/ this clan, his clan was obbysquires and obbyknights, obbysarmy had some of the ranks but if u saw the rank lists b4 and after.... you wouldn't fairly say that. when swz was attacked by swa we threw everything we could at it for as long as we could... the simple fact was that we had ranks willing to help but very few members, what members we did gain we often lost when we took the cc 2 help w145 we knew the costs, and we still tried to assist every way we could. We simply didn't have the resources that death and ds had at that time, obbysquires, obbyknights and obbykings were built on the ideals of friendship and loyalty, obbysarmy due to our constant warring ( and usual losses) had extreme difficulty forging those links....

15-May-2011 10:48:20 - Last edited on 15-May-2011 12:21:41 by Silent Fate

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So when you say oa doesn't have the same ties that ds does Lady Kalvin, yeah you are right we were never able to forge those ties bc we constantly threw what little we had to help swz when ever we could.. and we made short term decisions that had long term crippling effects and we did this to try and help our allies. Oa walked into a the shoes of obbysquires and obbyknights....and those were some g-d d--* big shoes 2 fill. When we decided 2 oust morte, he and swa started working together, swa u can deny this all u want... I'm the only rank w/ pic proof and log proof to back this up.One of the reasons that ds sided w/ oa over morte originally was that morte called for help from swa and would later send a large portion of obby ranks 2 join swa. And even as we were in the middle of a leadership crisis we still sent what mages we could 2 w145 2 help fight off swa who were on a tour de w/a bruce himself helped swz for several hours, helping swz at the cost of obbys, I dare leader from the swa axis to say they did something similar. As morte said to the ds owner at the time shortly before he closed the clan ( yeah i still got that log) <@Morte> pat<@[DS]Pat> yes? <@Morte> its been good playing wiht you guys in ds<@Morte> sometimes got crazier than it should have <@[DS]Pat> 0.o<@Morte> egos. attitudes. too many late nights<@[DS]Pat> ty, what's up?<@Morte> i'm not fighting wiht friends, regardless of anything, over a bit of pixels on the rs map<@Morte> i'm closing obbysquires and 0bbyknights<@Morte> i founded the clan. i helped form it. the clans clsoe with me<@Morte> but im done<@Morte> at this point thing are going to get needlessly worse obbysarmy isn't morte's cc it is queens, only its initial group of high lvl ranks were from obbysquires and out of those 40 some odd ranks that were carry overs from os I can count those who still are from os on my fingers. As to comments about obbys not hopping our cc this is true, we always had and have had a cc for warring purposes

15-May-2011 11:52:53 - Last edited on 15-May-2011 12:50:54 by Silent Fate

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oa was originally our back up war cc. The reason we used oa was morte never had access to it. Now the ds question... Under morte's leadership we warred ds far more fequen**y than we did under queens... and for far smaller issues sorry but synchronizing black lists is a bit less important then the war over mms. In order to become a w/a cc mms would have needed the support of ds and obbys our leadership voted 14-0 no on the issue of mms becoming a w/a cc. all that was left was for ds and oa to formally vote on the issue ...the out come of which to any one paying attention was a for gone conclusion. So here is where I will admit I get fuzzy, why did ds stall a vote that they knew the outcome of for over a month? obbys and ds both share guilt in our last war, ds failed to either hold a vote on mms or to even attempt a compromise, we as well failed to find non violent ways to force the issue. Lady Kalvin when you kicked and banned bruce an obby owner from su what did u think was gonna happen? That we would just bend over and take it? really Lady Kalvin... what did you expect would happen? It is also sad how you say we would have betrayed ds, In the words of Obsidiaqueen " I will burn w44 to the ground before I ever consider allying w/ swa" We had a week b4 any swa ever set foot on w44 did we try 2 ally? no we endured 3 weeks of swa camping did we once try and ally? no We lost alot of ranks to swa because our owners refused to ally I'm sure ds lost ranks 2 swa as well for the same reason. and on a final note mms was stealing members from both obbys and ds, we watched as mms ranks and members freeloaded entire games. yes there members were welcome but if they didn't reform their freeloading tendencies they often found the door. A final note... You claim that it was only ds helped death...If i recall when swa invaded w143 I do believe we were the first to drop the war and help death. On that note no death member has complained about us not helping.

15-May-2011 12:18:32 - Last edited on 15-May-2011 12:47:04 by Silent Fate

Ez Af Yawn
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This needs to stop. All this hate on this thread makes all of these clans to start to look like garbage. Stop now before you go to far to come back. This war has destroyed friendship, clans, and the fun of soul wars. I havnt left soul wars for more than 2 hours in the past weeks. All of that because of this war. Do stop being selfish all of you and blaming the other side. It leads nowhere. Instead of arguing why not look for compromise? This war is ruining soul wars for everyone. Don't let it ruin your runescape experience too.

15-May-2011 17:48:33

Ladykalvin

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Silent, the part you fail to realize is your leaders were telling the world alliance that ds didn't help wa. that obbys did it all. yes i have proof of your leaders saying that. at the end ds0 were blaming me alone for their downfall cause i seldom hopped ds to help them. how could we help when obbys were undermining our clan in our own world?
your clan lied from the start about things. don't claim otherwise.
ds was in the same shape after helping the world alliance as oa was, the few times oa went, BUT we didn't try to recruit oa members who were unhappy with hopping to help. Obbys did recruit ds still on w44. how is that for an alliance with ppl who we supported and helped? clan name should be 'backstabbers-r-us' tbh.
obbys should be taking the blame for the wa failing. their lack of helping, their starting issues with other clans (who was it that killed tie worlds adverting in world 44??), their hurting ds instead of being good allies, their refusal to see that mms would be good for our alliance, even to the point of warring us instead of waiting for the meeting set up with the leader of wa to help work out details.... point is obbys are self serving, power hungry, bad allies & overall think they are better than everyone else. they refused to work out a proper alliance. i notice Eskimos and Doom are seeing the lack of help provided by their 'allies' as well.
they did attack us more AFTER morte left then before, their insults, finger pointing & general lack of fixing problems in the alliance all shows that. morte at least knew how to say sorry.
you weren't always online and you were seldom in the wa channel so don't pretend to know everything. i was on alot and had both obby ranks and ds ppl keeping me informed.
your own ranks said that obbys were trying to make me quit by being even worse than usual. your own ranks said they didn't get in trouble for hurting ds, were only told not to get caught.
boss is the only obby rank who tried for peace.

16-May-2011 19:33:12

The It King
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Name one tie-world we have killed, please.
Obbysarmy and Obbywarriors have killed none.
You realize MULTIPLE of your (well your former ranks), have claimed that YOU alone are the downfall of DS.
They also have admitted to your lying to your own ranks in order to keep them from the Obbys.
I haven't used this against you because that is a lame-ass card to pull, but I felt I had no choice.
Please note my comments are aimed at you,
I'm not saying "Ds Lies", as I am not so ignorant as to suggest a whole clan can lie.
ALSO, how come on Swa's last attempt at w44, Ds was teamed with MMS and Swa -- In fact, I was informed by an Swa General that this was the plan all along.
Last, but certainly not Least -- I speak for 95% of the people who play soulwars when I say, the constant criminalization must stop.
The hate you are breeding has gone on too long, we aren't monsters.
We are friends,
We are a clan,
We play soulwars
We are NOT monsters.
All you do is breed feelings towards your fellow player which is not welcome in soulwars, and in a broader sense -- Runescape.

16-May-2011 23:46:53 - Last edited on 16-May-2011 23:58:09 by The It King

Ladykalvin

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lol king, you twist everything to suit yourself just like always.
any of our 'ranks' who claimed that weren't ds. i lie to no one.
done with your drama, felt the need to show the innocent just how much you twist the truth but they can find out theirselves.
i'm not part of it now. thank god.

17-May-2011 03:30:39

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