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Bunnycake

Bunnycake

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This thread is so full of pain and hatred it makes me physically sick to my stomach. I hope that all of swa reads what I have to say.
I'm an Obby general, relatively recently promoted, and I am proud to be one.
That being said, a lot of the reasons that swa have to hate wa or obbys are VALID. I can step back from my position and see that mistakes were made, choices that were hurtful or even abusive, by wa leaders. I personally never made any of these decisions, and the people who are hurting the most within the wa are the ones who have never done or said anything to insult or injure enemy clans.
If I could stop the cycle of hatred right here and now I would do so by any means necessary.

When I first joined obbys I was a lvl 100, and I was proud and excited to be in the clan that ensured victory every game. Sw has never been a serious game for me, and I honestly don't think it was intended to be. It is a minigame. A tiny aspect of an expansive online mmorpg. Someone had a good idea to band together with high levels and control the flow of games. I see nothing wrong with that.
As I worked hard to keep calls clean and advertise and recruit, I was thanked and recognized for my contributions. It didn't take long before Obbys were a place where I could feel happy and safe... Obbys became my family. Obbyclans for me have always been positive, encouraging and nurturing. Even when we "warred" it was always defence. During the first half of my tenure at obbys I remember feeling proud that we were the clan defending our allies, sending help and assistance... and yes, WA DID HELP SwZ. I personally lost countless games and my close friends spent millions trying to defend SWZ from SWA who was full of hate and wanted nothing but to see their destruction... then when SWZ fell they told us we didn't help? Did those countless hours of losing sw games where I did the best that I could mean nothing to my friends? Apparently. :(

05-Apr-2011 02:51:42

Bunnycake

Bunnycake

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We have a lot of good people in Obbyclans. A LOT of GOOD people. I'm sure swa has their fair share of good people too! I'm not so short sighted as to act as if SWA is the devil full of evil... Obbys aren't either. I'm a goody two-shoes girl in my 20's who loves the people in my clan and only want happiness for them. I'm sad to see so many people hell bent on revenge on my family, for decisions/mistakes that the VAST majority of its currents ranks DID NOT make.
If you kill my family, I personally will not become hell bent on revenge, because it is not in my nature, but I have been deeply hurt on a personal level by the way that swa and their ranks have insulted me and my friends simply for being in a clan that everyone has been taught is evil, when we aren't. We are people, with feelings, who just want to play soul wars. I have never said "let's crash * clan for fun" or "everyone in swa is evil." I've never said "hey we just beat x clan, so everyone go spam their clan chat and make fun of them for losing." That's BS and it's mean, and while I can't say no obby rank has ever done that, or told other people to do it, I HAVE stepped up and stopped that kind of behavior in the past, BECAUSE it's hurtful, BECAUSE it's just a game, and BECAUSE I don't want to hurt anyone. I am proud of my clan, I am proud of its leaders, I have seen them go through far more drama and pain than any human being ever should have to over a minigame on runescape... they have suffered and made hard decisions to keep Obby clans alive and strong to the best of their ability, so that we, the innocent members, could enjoy 3 zeals per game. That's all this is about.

05-Apr-2011 02:52:11 - Last edited on 05-Apr-2011 02:53:52 by Bunnycake

Bunnycake

Bunnycake

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I am happy in Obbyclans, and swa and their allies are trying their hardest to take that happiness away from me for something that I didn't do, and spamming the clan that I love with hate messages, please wake up and realize that we aren't evil, we're people. I love soul wars, it's a fun game... but I take no pleasure in crushing other clans (as everyone seems to think all Obby members do), and I don't appreciate the unwillingness to forgive, compromise, or even attempt to see anything from the other side's perspective. Everything has been twisted into something so ugly I have spent weeks agonizing over why the popular opinion seems to be to hate the clan I love so much. I love Queen, I love The It King, I love Kalipop, I love Nicole, Haseo, Sizzzzurrp, skateggg, Wallet, Desty, Daag, Cybes, (Bruce), and countless others... these are GOOD people with GOOD hearts who care about their clan and the people in it. From what I have seen from the attitudes in our leadership, we have no desire to feed the cycle of hate. Good guys finish last I guess. Evil is always stronger because it feeds our selfish natures. I am not an owner so I cannot appologize on behalf of the obby clans but I realize that people's feelings were hurt by swa in the past and for those actions and decisions, though not my own, I extend my own sincere apologies. A lot of this anger and hate is over a great deal of misunderstandings as well... but that's already been touched on by other ranks.

05-Apr-2011 02:52:45

Bunnycake

Bunnycake

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To SWA: You have the power to kill my clan, I won't deny it, but understand that in seeking your revenge, you are bringing a great deal of pain and misery to a lot of innocent bystanders who just wanted to play fun games of sw with friends. For what it's worth, I'll say again that I am sorry for all the pain that was caused by leaders under the obby name in the past. No one should ever feel hurt or unhappy while playing a game, this is supposed to be fun. Hate will suck the fun out of almost anything, and I don't, and refuse to, hate swa. Even while they spit in my face just for being in obbyclans, I don't hate swa, mms, or any of their allies. I'm not tempted by power or personal gain. Obbys are a clan comprised of people, and people make mistakes. I'm not proud of those mistakes, but Obbys have done a lot of good also, and I will stand by my family and the people that I love until the end.

05-Apr-2011 02:53:03

Soundscape

Soundscape

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Well said Bunny. I read all of that... I smiled when I read my name was mentioned. :) <3
Anyone who cares, read this and tell me whether my prediction was right or wrong...
(18:25:55) <@Nicole> see people like *edited names out*
(18:25:56) <@Nicole> would laugh at it
(18:26:36) <@Nicole> because they don't have the mental capacity to understand anything you even wrote besides our obvious distress
(18:26:36) <@Nicole> :) (18:26:59) <@Nicole> and they'd be like
(18:27:01) <@Nicole> "lol cry more"

05-Apr-2011 04:34:31 - Last edited on 05-Apr-2011 04:34:50 by Soundscape

[#S28LE7KYL]

[#S28LE7KYL]

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I just got done reading a recruitment thread for a clan that called you guys "a bunch of idiots." How low and ungallant!
I have spent a lot of time playing with you and your allied clans. I have always been well treated by your people, and especially by Marc and Bruce.
You probably never noticed me in the crowd, or when I joined Marc to fight in Army of WA. It was a lot of fun and I loved it.
Honestly, I really like you guys. You came to our aid a lot in World 2, when we were pounded 24/7 by a hostile gang of bullies intent on destroying our clan.
They failed. In large part because of your support. In the end, their leader found it just too costly to occupy World 2 and fend off WA allied clans at the same time.
To save face, he informed me he was "giving" World 2 to another clan, and withdrawing from World 2. It backfired. We liked them, and had no intention of being hostile toward them.
That wasn't supposed to happen, but that's another story. I was thrilled! That made us the only clan leadership to ever push SWA out of a world. But without Obbys, it would never have happened.
They can be defeated. I realize not everyone is as mean as I am, but to win in this case, you only have to just not give up. They have been pushed back before, and can be again.
Every once in a while I see a rabble of low level players, supported by a handful of veterans rise up and whip them. What is discouraging is not that we may lose a game, but that we have to play opposite such low level lack of sportsmanship.
But I will always be here, mean as I am, to oppose them in any way possible.
GF... :D
Viki

05-Apr-2011 04:45:35

[#S28LE7KYL]

[#S28LE7KYL]

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BTW, OXY, our people fought a lot with SWZ during the "last days." I saw that SWZ had callers who well knew how to defeat SWA.. But nobody would listen to them.. How sad! A defeat that just didn't need to happen.
Your many complaints fall on deaf ears.. Perhaps you enjoy being on your knees before them.

05-Apr-2011 05:09:08

iPleadDaFif

iPleadDaFif

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0k not going to sit back and continously watch every1 just flame and troll my friends like this its weak and pathetic and completely nonsense >.> now.. with tht being said i myself am a lt of OA and DAMN PROUD to give everything i have to the clan the people and the leaders. I owe alot of lvls/zeals to them among other things help outside of sw. Kali Bruce and Queen are great leaders despite nething u could ever try to convince me they reward you for ur hard work and effort u put forth towards the cc they stay active and participate as well (tht shows leadership if u ask me ;p) NOW besides them other ranks and even just faithful ppl to the cc are all great ppl in sooo many ways so why u srsly gonna dis? just play the GAME <----- GAME now rem tht word it is key in my post GAME! why u have to take everything so srsly and be so hellbent over trying to crush us...sw is just a group of ppl who show teamwork and cooperation to kill the other teams avatar we all want 3 zeal this is wht it is about its how u get new ppl in ur cc u show them u can win whts the point is in trying to take over more then 1 world i have no clue tbh -.- as long as u can go to 1 world and get ur zeals whats it matter? and for those of u bashing ppl on here or in sw lobbies/games thts just low DEATH TO OA yh riiight ur real cool -.- tht shows weakness and in all reailty it hurts sum of us ppl who do care bout the game and take pride in what we are a part of! And to king props to you for pouring ur soul into sumthing tht matters to you and defending your/obbys pride with all these posts u have been making let them bash u imo tht shows there weakness tht they need to even stoop to them lvls >=[ i never said i dnt like the other clans i could but just outta respect i dnt IM AN OBBY AND I AM PROUD i dnt flame any of ur ranks or flood ur pms or spam ur cc with hate messages its just disrepectful.

05-Apr-2011 05:09:46

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