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Stefano2025

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RSC clans are getting into RSB fights since most rsc clans are infused with old RSB. I know clans like RoT and DI and AF have old rsb members in them which has been pushing their involvement into RSB style fights. There are clans which are starting to develop their own RSB teams from scratch (ie the Finnish country clan FOOLS).

Only thing OSRS is missing is ranked fights and the regulations RSB had. Right now DPS is really high and recoil effects w/ veng being used only makes long drawn out nail biters a thing of the past which were kinda influenced from old rsb rules (no veng, cannons off, restricted, etc).

30-Sep-2016 17:02:48

Matt0708

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Have to tread about setting that up carefully but I'm sure it can be done if it's really wanted. Ladder was starting to become a bit neglected by 2012 but that was probably due to having like 6 clans on it lol. Eh it'd be interesting just to see people's thoughts on that now, you probably don't even need a ladder or a league though, just have an agreement not to use certain things I guess.

As long as the DPS is not unfair that's fine to have a faster pace. I don't miss 900 damage ags specs on loading screens lol. That and claws were pretty bullshit. Then again it may just be me and a developing apathy (is that the right word?) for rng as times gone on.

01-Oct-2016 03:57:06

The Animal
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Hope everything's going good, Matt.

The only real challenge is building an account from scratch, then getting the bank to support warring. Of course, Elysian's have a ridiculous drop rate, so those are end-game items like before. They definitely help a substantial amount, especially with the high DPS of the ballista stacks. Of the wars I've been in on OS, I've seen someone use a C'Bow a couple of times since Ballista has been introduced. DFS/Crystal shield still has it's place, just harder with the Ballista as good as it is. Not to mention, Ballista can still hit high 20's (Possibly 30's) through protection prayer with ease. Being a range tank with a Ballista, you can expect to use many dragon javelins as ammo. (You do not get them back, and outside of Clan Wars, they disappear with each shot, so Ava's has no effect either way.) Several tanks have stated that they commonly use 300-400 javelins per war. (Javelins are 2k ea). D/Z Spear specs no longer stack, and you cannot spear someone who is under the affect. I see more high hitting Ballista KO's than I do AGS snipes.


If there was a stable, active ladder that would be introduced, I could see formal, ranked warring taking place. It would take a lot of effort to begin, and the ladder admin(s) would have to continuously promote, recruit and communicate with clans in order for it to grow. PVM clans dominate the clan scene, but a lot of them have tried warring in it's early stages here on 07. Clans like Oblivion and Stud Unit, for example, were active in warring at one time, and they were decent. You can expect all of the pk/pvp clans currently established should wander their way over to the ladder at one point or another, getting those PVM clans that control the clan scene will be more difficult, but the ladder's future depends on it.


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14-Oct-2016 12:37:39

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Another thought,


Most of the ladders in the past were combat based, for example, under 99 combat requirements you could be in the lower league, over 100 combat you were in the higher league. What is your opinion of that system?

Also, with those said requirements, if the future ladder would use them, do you believe that could be unattractive to some clans?

I remember there being, at one time, a "Mini Bracket", "20v20 Bracket", "30v30 Bracket", "Full Out Bracket", etc. Do you think the amount of leagues may have contributed to lower or higher activity? Do you think there should be separate ladders for each particular league or set style of leagues?

Most clans on OS at the moment do "Mini" wars. Or lower ops matched wars (15v15 ish). With this in mind, do you think a 2v2 ladder/league could be successful?

I may be ill-informed of ladder details, as I never really had the chance to start/assist with a ladder so please forgive if this sounds null.


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14-Oct-2016 12:49:06 - Last edited on 14-Oct-2016 12:49:48 by The Animal

Matt0708

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Nasty forum bug, typed up 2000 characters and got a login screen that I couldn't log into because I afked for a minute so I lost it all, just an annoyance more then anything else lol...

Javalins sound like total hell if gold isn't as common as 2012 as that number is worse then brews were...Jesus.

Lower leagues were really good for RSB for awhile, clans that weren't warring nearly as often could still participate, same with smaller clans etc. without having to deal with a dec from a top warring clan that had to work their way through the ladder. The thing with lower league was by the time it didn't work anymore (2012 was a bleak year in some ways) it was due to lack in clans in RSB in general rather then the league being obsolete.

That being said the OS clans (and it could apply to RS3 too tbh I haven't been 100% in tune) could have a different set of requirements now, and the landscape is obviously different so you'd have to look at the clans that would make up a lower league before setting any sort of requirements or even making one tbh. That being said I would say it has been proven to work.

As for different brackets don't go crazy. If you were to make a ladder, start with things that you do right now. 10v10 I assume, maybe 20v20 and possibly classic fullout depending on if people care about that. I always liked fullouts because sitting people was the goddam worst, and I wasn't even the one that did it, and it seems to be one of the more attractive formats for outsiders (though idk about now), it's easiest to understand and work with it on a basic level.

For 2v2s if you don't do them for fun don't have a ladder for it. If anyone puts in a ladder start making it the least intimidating thing possible. You can build any additional leagues you need if you talk to other leaders/warrers (inside and outside ladder) and find there's plenty of interest. A ladder won't work period without people actively using it.

15-Oct-2016 01:24:36

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