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Hyles said :
465798359gjk said :

About time an admin speaks up about all the quark ranks disrupting the status threads. Thank you! I thought that was grounds for being banned from the fc per Lyra's warning?


Oh I wish....

I'm starting to think it's high time the Discontinued Items Status Thread was banned from the forums. It's way more trouble than it's worth. I can say without a doubt that there has never been another thread series that has ever caused as many problems or that has ever required as much FMod/JMod attention, and that includes back when the forums averaged 125+ posts per minute.

The saddest part is that the issue only arose (to the extent that it exists today) around 2-3 years ago when a majority of the hats rose above max cash. Since then the bickering has been nonstop, and it is almost always by the same people. But despite this becoming a norm, people still feel that it is necessary to respond, even though they know that the behavior won't change. That is the very definition of INSANITY : doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. And far worse, the reactions often come from veterans and FC ranks that not only should know better but also should be so used to it by now that it should be second nature to just IGNORE IT!

I can promise you that if it does not stop, the thread will be banned, and the community will be all the better for it. I would love to see the behavior improve, but sadly I don't see that happening.


If I act as a market maker, would that solve everything?
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29-Apr-2017 07:18:38

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Hyles said :
465798359gjk said :

About time an admin speaks up about all the quark ranks disrupting the status threads. Thank you! I thought that was grounds for being banned from the fc per Lyra's warning?


Oh I wish....

I'm starting to think it's high time the Discontinued Items Status Thread was banned from the forums. It's way more trouble than it's worth. I can say without a doubt that there has never been another thread series that has ever caused as many problems or that has ever required as much FMod/JMod attention, and that includes back when the forums averaged 125+ posts per minute.

The saddest part is that the issue only arose (to the extent that it exists today) around 2-3 years ago when a majority of the hats rose above max cash. Since then the bickering has been nonstop, and it is almost always by the same people. But despite this becoming a norm, people still feel that it is necessary to respond, even though they know that the behavior won't change. That is the very definition of INSANITY : doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. And far worse, the reactions often come from veterans and FC ranks that not only should know better but also should be so used to it by now that it should be second nature to just IGNORE IT!

I can promise you that if it does not stop, the thread will be banned, and the community will be all the better for it. I would love to see the behavior improve, but sadly I don't see that happening.

If the Fmods would just enforce this supposed "zero tolerance policy" the problem would quickly go away. The same if the FC enforced theirs. These policies were implemented a year ago to deal with this very issue and apparently were quickly forgotten. Yes, ranks and friends of the FC only make the problem worse when they try to battle it on the thread rather than reporting it to forum help.

29-Apr-2017 07:25:58 - Last edited on 29-Apr-2017 07:29:34 by 465798359gjk

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Mc Jump Say said :
Well, I confess to my fair share of the edrama. though I did stop it rather quickly. Been away for a while and forgot how bad the thread could be. My apologies for any extra drama I may have produced.


You're forgiven haha. After all, you did have an extended break, and luckily missed out on some of the worst forum incidents.

I wrote that post after speaking with a few FMod friends, and sympathizing with their feelings, I was naturally very irritated with what they have had to endure thanks to the one thread series. I was even more irked than usual, so I came off sounding much more harsh than I intended. I hope there are no hard feelings.

But I stand by what I said. That thread will be banned if the problem persists; that is assured. Admittedly, the "extended review" that the thread has been under has gone on longer than I (or anyone, including many of the FMods) anticipated, but I don't think that it can possibly go on indefinitely when you consider the sheer number of hidden posts and FMods visits that have been made necessary. It's time to shape up or ship out, and sadly I think that if the decision is made to ban the thread, it would be nearly impossible to make the argument that the thread provides more help than harm.
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30-Apr-2017 21:03:53 - Last edited on 30-Apr-2017 21:04:45 by Hyles

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First off, sorry for not being as active as I usually am. I've been busy, but anyways.

Anytime we have any issues on the thread it seems to somehow be related to partyhats. We don't really get any trolling on the thread and flaming when it comes to any of the other rares. People are only interested in the most valuable of rares, since they want to shape them to their benefit and profit as much as possible. We know this is true. So, if hats are the biggest issue, why not toss them altogether? We aren't going to be able to convince everyone to play nice on the thread and it will always be a problem, even if it's not on our end. I guess if it comes down to losing the thread completely, or dropping hats, I'd choose dropping hats. R Quark has been around far too long to lose the thread because of trolls. Sometimes we have to make sacrifices. What if we put it to a vote?

@Hyles
I have a suggestion but not sure if the forum mods would have an issue with it. What if we posted ranges once a day on this thread? We wouldn't be spamming them and this thread doesn't get many posts so they wouldn't really get lost, and once a day would probably suffice. Heck, it might even be okay to just post them once every few days or once a week. I realize it isn't the item discussion thread but it wouldn't be causing any issues either. Let me know what they think. If not, we could just get rid of them, which I'm sure Mr. Hyles would support. :P
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01-May-2017 06:21:19

Hyles
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Cyderman said :
@Hyles
I have a suggestion but not sure if the forum mods would have an issue with it. What if we posted ranges once a day on this thread? We wouldn't be spamming them and this thread doesn't get many posts so they wouldn't really get lost, and once a day would probably suffice. Heck, it might even be okay to just post them once every few days or once a week. I realize it isn't the item discussion thread but it wouldn't be causing any issues either. Let me know what they think. If not, we could just get rid of them, which I'm sure Mr. Hyles would support. :P


You can post pretty much anything you want on this thread within reason. If you wanted to post PCs here, you could.
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05-May-2017 03:48:22

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We are way overdue for a rank session. Guest in the cc [Clan Quark] for all off topic chat.
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06-May-2017 00:34:04

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Heey, since i can't join the rank session and might get voted down to a rank without kick rights i like to explain what i do in the fc.

I check for KOS several times a day and look out for spammers or rule breakers. When i see a lurer or scammer i check if they are in the chat and kick them if they are.

I don't merch rares. It's the only reason why i am in this chat.

Lately there aren't many KOS people in the chat and the chat behaves pretty well. So i seem inactive while i do keep an eye out.

I don't need a star or anything. But i do need 2 stripes to be able to do my work.

Hope that clears things up :)
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06-May-2017 18:35:33 - Last edited on 06-May-2017 19:03:19 by Ferenc2017

Popfrog9

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Ferenc2017 said :
Heey, since i can't join the rank session and might get voted down to a rank without kick rights i like to explain what i do in the fc.

I check for KOS several times a day and look out for spammers or rule breakers. When i see a lurer or scammer i check if they are in the chat and kick them if they are.

I don't merch rares. It's the only reason why i am in this chat.

Lately there aren't many KOS people in the chat and the chat behaves pretty well. So i seem inactive while i do keep an eye out.

I don't need a star or anything. But i do need 2 stripes to be able to do my work.

Hope that clears things up :)


Aren't you veteran? I thought we didn't vote on veterans.
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07-May-2017 01:03:38

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07-May-2017 20:18:05

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