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Old Ozz Arc

Old Ozz Arc

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Exactly, Maloy.

Moving on to another point, this entire thing involving Falador didn't even need to happen.

I don't care about the "if we did this" or "what we should've done", or even who was responsible for this situation. You already know who you are. We need to move ahead. I ask that both of you stop. Roi, in the time that I've known you, you've never shown interest in Falador. From what I can assume, your only doing this to spite Jona. The same reason Vanex claimed Falador in the first place. I can guarantee that you won't get any satisfaction out of this. And I'm going to guess you know that as well.

Jona, if Falador is truly yours as you've been saying, then I don't think you even need to war to make it official. It's official to you. We need to talk in-game. Clearly we have things we need to discuss.

Which proves your both doing this out of spite. To get back at eachother. For the hell of it.

That doesn't justify war anywhere, and certainly doesn't justify it here.

It's your decision whether you want to war or not. In the long run though, your hurting yourselves, and the clans around you by instigating war.

If your willing to compromise, I'm more than willing to help.

Ozz/Dezz

01-Jan-2012 03:18:52

Harmy

Harmy

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no Ozz roi isn't I Am.
I'm the evil mastermind behind this : )
Jona just Mad me off : )

You can't say the street version of "mad" -facepalm-


And @ ozz, Since we're obviously defending Primal legacy from a clan they cant defend against i believe we're doing you all a favor.
Since we are all friends here are we not?
Then why aren't we defending each other for what we believe is right?
and I made this war because this is what i believe is right.
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01-Jan-2012 03:37:45 - Last edited on 01-Jan-2012 06:15:07 by Harmy

August Son

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Hehe... If i can't be your friend I will be your enemy, if I'm not your enemy I'm a thorn in your side.

Jonathong: You never asked or talked to me in-game about falador you just went and warred me, even tho I knew it would make you mad.

Ozz: If we are to stay together as a world we need to learn to negotiate and communicate, not run around warring each other because the other clan got what they wanted. Separate the men from the children, and raise the children right.

Bl's: Hehe

Camel: -whatever camels say-

No put away your carrots and pumpkins and TALK instead of FIGHTING.

~<>{|/'-+-'\|}<>~ Exan (Vanex) Drayk, Leader of Primal Legacy ~<>{|/'-+-'\|}<>~
"You learn far more from negative leadership than from positive leadership. Because you learn how not to do it. And, therefore, you learn how to do it."
Norman Schwarzkopf “I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.”
J.R.R. Tolkien

01-Jan-2012 16:39:39

Jonathann226

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@ Harmy- What do you mean, attitude? If this is still about the allies, fine we'll fight you without allies.

@ Everyone Else- Whats with all the Hippie Talk? The point of these threads we make it to manage war, not to make peace. This, is 100% factual (opinion), that all the arguments we have are worse because we try so hard to avoid war. When we prioritize peace, and use words to 'defeat' our enemies, we end up with situations like the one with that pro saradomin clan or w/e they were called. If we had just faught them, somebody would have one, and then the Saradominists would have had there fun, got bored and left, because they were a pro clan.

However, everybody refused to fight them, and made a big hulabaloo over it. Stating all these rules that prevent the clan from warring them (as to not rick losing their land), that argument takes a week, which only instigates the pro clan to want to war us more. Then, it leads to further argument over more rules we need, and of course we don't agree on those. Then it also leads to arguments over whether what clans should even be allowed in. And then after all those arguments, people are so fed up with each other, they now want to war, even though they weren't enemies to start off with! Then there's more even more time spent preventing those wars! So all in all, we spend a month argueing just to avoid war. Yet if we had just warred the saradomimist pro's right from the start, it would have been over in less than a couple of days.

...

So... In conclusion. Peace does not solve much. Even if you manage to solve it with words, the hatred is still there. The thing with (Clan Wars) war is, when somebody loses, it's easy to rebuild broken bridges, and become friends again eventually. But when you have to rely on words to win (land or any other debate), if and when (because there will...) real harmful words are said, they aren't as easy to recover from.

War is simply more effecient and better for the Community in the long run

01-Jan-2012 20:32:29

SF Roi

SF Roi

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I agree with Jona.

And a problem he didn't mention about the 'word battles' is that it only takes a handful of misguided nutters with a common goal to gang up on someone else, come up with some ridiculous rule deliberately created to spite another, and then thrive off that.

If you disagree look back at every rule made in the League and you'll see almost ALL of them were built around limiting someone's power or influence.


If you want an example of this, look at Juliana. She has NO power, NO army, NO influence, and NO history on w31, yet she's perched here under a slew of 'rules' that guarantee her a spot without contest entirely unjustifiably. Not one of you can honestly say she deserves anything -- she's demonstrated complete abuse of power during her short-lived reign on W31 and has angered dozens of veterans players. Yet here she is chiming in, thumb to nose, knowing that she is untouchable because she is a manipulator who will bend rules to suit her own selfish needs. She'll probably spit poison into your minds, making it seem like she's a critical player in the well-being of this world, but I'd simply LOVE to hear any of you come up with a reasonable excuse as to how she'll accomplish that. From my stand point, all Juliana is good at is reaping benefits for her ego and flipping off anyone who contests her 'Goddess' personality complex.

The end.

01-Jan-2012 20:53:47 - Last edited on 01-Jan-2012 20:59:10 by SF Roi

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