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Shikimoko4
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So a bunch of "high-profiled" players got banned today for participating in RWT. Can be read here:
http://services.runescape.com/m=forum/c=0qD-sX88QoI/forums.ws?14,15,878,63948495
Anyway, I found the one guy who got banned's YouTube, and he just posted a disgusting video, which can be found here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKjWwMOgxNM
Apparently, he made 50+ grand IRL off RuneScape through RWT, and he says he's happy he got banned since it'll make the price of gold skyrocket, and he'll just harvest it on other accounts. Can someone assure this jackass gets sued please?
I'd really like to see him lose his money + have his IRL reputation ruined so he has a scandal on his record. And no, I don't care if his whole IRL gets messed up by being sued, if he's able to make 50+ grand in a few months and have such a benefit off of stealing from Jagex, then he should be able to lose it all.
-S4
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18-Aug-2012 01:26:05 - Last edited on 18-Aug-2012 01:27:12 by Shikimoko4

Charm Quark

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I'm finding it harder and harder to dislike people for real-world trading away their assets when they quit. IVP has no problem with sacrificing the integrity of the game to sell gold and xp for real-world currency, so it seems unreasonable to expect quitting players to respect the rules of a company that drove the game so far downhill that they were forced to quit.
What debt do they owe that they should turn down thousands of dollars just to help IVP milk more profit out of the game? The difference between rwting gold on the black market and buying spins from IVP is that IVP takes the profit in the second case. IVP has lost my respect...to me, as long as IVP takes profit from rwting GP, I don't have much of a problem with Runescape players taking their share of the profit as well.
Now I have to qualify this statement when it comes to gamblers. I see gambling as scamming...the gp they are selling is essentially stolen money from other players. Therefore, I am happy to see these bans because I think making virtual or real world profit by scamming is simply wrong.
EDIT: Not to start an argument, just some food for thought.

18-Aug-2012 02:22:32 - Last edited on 18-Aug-2012 02:23:30 by Charm Quark

Shikimoko4
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I don't like what Jagex or IVP is doing to the game, but it's THEIR game. They own/have shares in this game, and therefore, they can legally contribute to the decisions. We can disagree all we want, we can say how wrong it is, we can tell them this isn't true to the original meaning, but at the end of the day, if you don't like it, you either deal with it, protest, or quit. That's not to say we shouldn't try to voice our opinions, but we can't sit around and say "Well, since Jagex does it, that means it's okay for us to do it too."
This game is not our property. If Jagex determines SOF legal, then whatever. I hate that it is, I feel it destroys the game, and yes, I feel people who RWT are in the same boat that Jagex is in, but in terms of legality, no. They're not.
This is stealing. This needs to stop.
-S4
EDIT: Not arguing either. Friendly response. :D
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18-Aug-2012 02:59:45 - Last edited on 18-Aug-2012 03:06:57 by Shikimoko4

Charm Quark

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I would feel a lot better about it if Jagex were like "Hey, this is a game, but it's also how we make our living. Over time, we strive to make make Runescape a better game a better business. We hope our updates will help us attain these goals, and we are grateful for your support."
Right now, they lie through their teeth about why they are pushing SOF, Solomon, RAF, Loyalty Points, etc. They still try to make arguments that you can't buy your way forward in this game when it is becoming increasingly clear that you can. They pretend a majority of players like these updates when it is obvious that they don't.
SOF in particular is virtually a scam. Graphically, it grossly overstates the probabilities of winning the best rewards, and nowhere are the actual odds available. Offering gambling without revealing the odds (which are of course stacked heavily in Jagex's favor) to CHILDREN no less has made me lose a lot of respect for the company.
When Jagex is dishonest with its players, how can it expect them to play fair in return?

18-Aug-2012 04:35:45

Charm Quark

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I have to agree, though, that when all players started playing this game, it was with the understanding that it is illegal to make profit off of it. So from that perspective, if you're looking to make profit off of online gaming, Jagex has always made it abundantly clear that to do so in Runescape is not acceptable. So there are arguments to be made for both sides.

18-Aug-2012 06:12:57

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