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I am curious how you all deal with players that move to OSRS. Since its release we have had a steady stream of players transition from RS3 to OSRS. Obviously OSRS doesn't contribute or interact with RS3 clans so we usually kick them after they've gone inactive on RS3 - which I hate but otherwise we would be full of members that no longer play RS3.

However, this doesn't really stop the flow of players to OSRS, it only addresses those that have already transitioned. I am curious how you all deal with clan members that cut down or quit playing RS3 and spend most or all of their time on OSRS.

As a RS3 clan leader, my concerns are keeping our RS3 clan community strong and active while reducing turnover among our members (this doesn't just include those moving to OSRS but also those that quit RS for whatever reasons.)

Sadly it is sometimes as simple as one member mentioning how much better profit/hr playing OSRS is and that you can transfer wealth between OSRS and RS3. Then we'll start seeing ppl on OSRS instead of RS3 and eventually some of them fully transition to OSRS.

Obviously we can't dictate that people only play RS3, nor do we want to. Ideally we try to keep our community strong and active so that people have a reason to continue playing on RS3. However, since the release of OSRS this turnover of players moving to OSRS from RS3 has been a constant issue for us, and I assume other clans as well. So, I am curious how your clan's are dealing with this issue of member loss to a competing version of RuneScape.
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10-Oct-2017 08:02:32

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My clan migrated to OSRS, as most members already played OSRS and didn't want to do RS3 anymore. People don't leave RS3 because of clans though, so I don't think clans can do anything about people going to OSRS. If anything members are more likely to stay on RS3 because of their loyalty to their clan. All you can do is adapt. If you like the people who're leaving to OSRS, just become a RuneScape clan and cover both games. Nothing forces you to be RS3 only.
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10-Oct-2017 09:26:46 - Last edited on 10-Oct-2017 09:27:36 by Fire Hawk154

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Our policy is that we do not remove them for any sort of inactivity (since we can see them around), but we don't give them promotions because they're not participating in our clan (unless they make up for this by being very active on our clan Discord). @Lisaa_RS - Followed by @Runescape
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10-Oct-2017 12:40:58

Dave Mercer
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Personally I tried osrs when it started and i got bored in comparison to rs3.

A steady flow of recruiting is the only way to deal with it. Otherwise eventually all your members would have moved on / quit. Of course some players see RS as a valuable aspect as their lives and will always continue to play.
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10-Oct-2017 14:09:03

Seer of War

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Fire Hawk154 said :
My clan migrated to OSRS, as most members already played OSRS and didn't want to do RS3 anymore. People don't leave RS3 because of clans though, so I don't think clans can do anything about people going to OSRS. If anything members are more likely to stay on RS3 because of their loyalty to their clan. All you can do is adapt. If you like the people who're leaving to OSRS, just become a RuneScape clan and cover both games. Nothing forces you to be RS3 only.


Yeah I completely agree. Its more of a macro-issue rather than a clan related issue, but I figured I'd post here to see if anyone has figured out a good way to deal with this issue. Every month we lose a few more good players to OSRS, infact the reason I posted this thread is that I saw two long term members logged on to OSRS on my friends list today. I checked their stats on OSRS and they must either not play on OSRS very much or started them in the past few days (very low totals). Kind of surprising that people are still transitioning to OSRS from RS3 after this long, so I decided to post and discuss with other clan leaders.

Lisaa said :
Our policy is that we do not remove them for any sort of inactivity (since we can see them around), but we don't give them promotions because they're not participating in our clan (unless they make up for this by being very active on our clan Discord).


That seems fair, I wish we had the extra space in our clan to keep active RS players on either version of the game but unfortunately we already have to regularly remove inactive members due to the 500 clan member limit. :(
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10-Oct-2017 14:25:58

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Dave Mercer said :
Personally I tried osrs when it started and i got bored in comparison to rs3.

A steady flow of recruiting is the only way to deal with it. Otherwise eventually all your members would have moved on / quit. Of course some players see RS as a valuable aspect as their lives and will always continue to play.


For sure! Our recruitment is solid and we have procedures for dealing with inactive players so we're fine in that regard. Its not really impacting our activity levels, its mainly just a slow drain on our existing active player base. I expected as much when they announced OSRS, but I guess I also expected that it would be a short term drain on members that would eventually result in those wanting to play OSRS moving there and those who wished to stay in the main game staying - allowing the RS3 Clan Community to rebuild. Instead OSRS has turned into a rival version of RS that is still impacting RS3 and clans years later.

I guess what I'm trying to figure out is how do we as clans insulate ourselves against the impact of Jagex's decisions with projects that directly compete with RS3 (like OSRS, Ironmen, HCIM, Darkscape when it was still running, etc) but also more importantly against future projects Jagex may choose to pursue that could negatively impact RS3's player base. (EDIT: Side note, I include Ironmen/HCIM in this because lots of ppl have quit playing their main accounts in favor of playing an Ironman variant. Still technically in RS3, but does also have a negative impact on clans with higher level requirements.)

We will absolutely continue to remove inactives and replace them with active players, but that strategy is mainly a reaction to the environment created by Jagex where there are multiple options available to players and where RS3 may not be the most appealing.

I'm trying to figure out a way (if one exists) to get ahead of this issue so its not a constant albatross around RS3 clan's necks.
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10-Oct-2017 14:38:51 - Last edited on 10-Oct-2017 14:45:47 by Seer of War

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In the same way as if someone went inactive.

But we have taken the stance of becoming a rs3 only clan so like mentioned it depends if you wanna be both.
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I haven't seen anyone from my clan go over to osrs, i just have alot of inactivity of members because we seem to recruit players who join clan then a weekl later they go missing in action. But i will cross that bridge when it comes along.

As for osrs , ya j grew up with it and even before that so you can say i'm one of the few who been here from almost day 1 since rs started, ya there's going to be changes but it's how you feel about the flow of rs3 vs osrs right now, and even now there's some p2p which became f2p.

If these players who choose osrs vs rs3 and the clan etc then they not really loyal to clan anymore unfortunately it's sad to see but times have changed and still changing. So ya maybe ask your osrs players to see if they are planning coming back in the future to rs3, my guess is no lol .

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10-Oct-2017 16:48:12

Iron Faery
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Lisaa said :
Our policy is that we do not remove them for any sort of inactivity (since we can see them around), but we don't give them promotions because they're not participating in our clan (unless they make up for this by being very active on our clan Discord).


Same, except that we use Teamspeak and they're welcome to organize OS raids and teams at Teamspeak and administrate if they were admins there.

10-Oct-2017 22:25:53

Iron Faery
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Small numbers we lost for OS though, we always had people who rather adapt the new than go back for old.

I'm not always happy with RS 3 economy though - looking at last bossing updates like Magister and Telos, can't be sure even high pvm always brings profit, plus all this endless Treasure Hunter promotions, new skilling gears.

We're not blind dear Jagex, we can see when supplies cost, armour degrades or charges cost and waiting for luck eats our profit.

It's not just my personal experience, even guys who are a lot greater at pvm than me and very rich players, one of them in my clan said, after making some weapons from Magister the profit was minimal or he even ended up with the loss.

After hearing them when they made hundreds kills I was happy I didn't unlock Magister and it means I can't get it for reaper task. Good (:

10-Oct-2017 22:40:40

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