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As for long-term guests who never intend to join the clan, we've never actually experienced that. All of our long-term/frequent guests had been members of our clan at one point, but I'll still give my thoughts on that type of situation.
Personally, I would ask this person why they choose to guest regularly but not have any intentions of actually joining the clan. If they're participating in your clan's events, tell them they need to become a member of the clan to keep participating.
I don't really see why some put themselves in that situation because becoming an actual member of a clan is part of the experience, not just sitting in the chat as a guest all the time. Though I can understand checking out a clan before joining, having no intentions of joining really doesn't make sense to me.
Asking them questions about why they prefer to be a guest rather than become a clan member would be my topic for discussion with these types of guests should I ever be faced with them in my clan. But, for now, that would be the best advice I can pass on from my interpretation of that situation.
Hope that helps a little, and I've been doing homework all day, so I apologise if there's any errors that I missed while typing this. 2am usually brings frequent typos for me, so I hope I at least sound coherent.
~ Sicariu
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As for long-term guests who never intend to join the clan, we've never actually experienced that. All of our long-term/frequent guests had been members of our clan at one point, but I'll still give my thoughts on that type of situation.
Personally, I would ask this person why they choose to guest regularly but not have any intentions of actually joining the clan. If they're participating in your clan's events, tell them they need to become a member of the clan to keep participating.
I don't really see why some put themselves in that situation because becoming an actual member of a clan is part of the experience, not just sitting in the chat as a guest all the time. Though I can understand checking out a clan before joining, having no intentions of joining really doesn't make sense to me.
Asking them questions about why they prefer to be a guest rather than become a clan member would be my topic for discussion with these types of guests should I ever be faced with them in my clan. But, for now, that would be the best advice I can pass on from my interpretation of that situation.
Hope that helps a little, and I've been doing homework all day, so I apologise if there's any errors that I missed while typing this. 2am usually brings frequent typos for me, so I hope I at least sound coherent.
~ Sicariu
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13-Oct-2016 06:51:01 - Last edited on 13-Oct-2016 07:04:07 by Sicariu
1) Have you ever experienced issues like this?
Nope
2) If yes, how did you handle it? If no, what would you recommend?
Consider the option below
3) We've considered disabling guesting and sending a kind yet firm message to these guesters asking them to join or leave, do you think this would be wise?
This is a great solution, or has at least been so for my clan. My clan have never been opened for guests, maybe just a day or so.
Pros:
*You are avoiding all kind of problems guests may bring. That is bad behaviour, or anything like that.
*Those players you invite really want to join the clan. They put effort in joining it. They heard good things about it and want to join it for that reason. They have to try it and most stays because of lazyness of tring other clans. If all clans were open everyone could try each clan and see where they fit the best. There are many clans out there, a lot of them are suitable for the same player. You want to recruit those you can
Cons:
*Easy recruiting, players can't join your chat and ask for an invite that way. But on the other hand if it seems to me, it is better to keep the invitation at a low rate to let newcommers join the group rather than entering as a group and build something that might be bad for the clan it self.
*Can't invite friends to the chat
Just a few. However. If you decide to close the clan, be strict about it for a large period of time. One option could also be letting just members talk and mute the guests. Clan leader of DreamTeam - A Swedish RS Clan
Nope
2) If yes, how did you handle it? If no, what would you recommend?
Consider the option below
3) We've considered disabling guesting and sending a kind yet firm message to these guesters asking them to join or leave, do you think this would be wise?
This is a great solution, or has at least been so for my clan. My clan have never been opened for guests, maybe just a day or so.
Pros:
*You are avoiding all kind of problems guests may bring. That is bad behaviour, or anything like that.
*Those players you invite really want to join the clan. They put effort in joining it. They heard good things about it and want to join it for that reason. They have to try it and most stays because of lazyness of tring other clans. If all clans were open everyone could try each clan and see where they fit the best. There are many clans out there, a lot of them are suitable for the same player. You want to recruit those you can
Cons:
*Easy recruiting, players can't join your chat and ask for an invite that way. But on the other hand if it seems to me, it is better to keep the invitation at a low rate to let newcommers join the group rather than entering as a group and build something that might be bad for the clan it self.
*Can't invite friends to the chat
Just a few. However. If you decide to close the clan, be strict about it for a large period of time. One option could also be letting just members talk and mute the guests. Clan leader of DreamTeam - A Swedish RS Clan
13-Oct-2016 09:50:54 - Last edited on 13-Oct-2016 09:51:11 by Emil
Reiteraterating some of what's been said, having been in both positions (left a clan to found my own and tried to hang around a bit for friendships), it can be tough. I think a lot of it depends on a case-by-case basis.
1) I've had long term guests that didn't really plan to join, and I think that's okay if they're on the world and interacting with clan. Whether through chat, events, what have you. I think it's a bit of an awkward feeling having someone leave and hang around after, something I didn't necessarily realize when I was doing it tbh. So, it's totally possible that they initially want to stay friends with people, but if they left the group idk, it's not as important as what they felt they got out of another group.
It's not like they couldn't have guested in that other group. I think depending on the person, it can be okay to give some sort of grace period, but as others have said - they did choose another group, for better or worse. Of course it depends on the circumstances and all that jazz.
2) I haven't run into the leaving and keeping alt/guesting, so just advice and speculation. I think it's not a good idea to keep an alternative account they'll barely use. Shows what they think of you.
If they legitimately spilt time then I think it's okay, still fairly active. Again, just have to access and user judgment. I think it's important to consider what's best for your current members though. If they just hang around to stop on when they get bored idk hah, feels like a negative impression to me.
3) I think giving a firm message is okay, just be willing to accept that they probably aren't likely to keep guesting if they've refused before. If you're okay with that, and feel they're not a positive influence, I think that's what I would do. I personally advise against not allowing guests. Removes the opportunity for someone interested to check y'all out and frankly when I was looking any chat that didn't allow guests was one I skipped. I'm in no condition to post. Wait a minute - I don't have to listen to myself! I'm drunk
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1) I've had long term guests that didn't really plan to join, and I think that's okay if they're on the world and interacting with clan. Whether through chat, events, what have you. I think it's a bit of an awkward feeling having someone leave and hang around after, something I didn't necessarily realize when I was doing it tbh. So, it's totally possible that they initially want to stay friends with people, but if they left the group idk, it's not as important as what they felt they got out of another group.
It's not like they couldn't have guested in that other group. I think depending on the person, it can be okay to give some sort of grace period, but as others have said - they did choose another group, for better or worse. Of course it depends on the circumstances and all that jazz.
2) I haven't run into the leaving and keeping alt/guesting, so just advice and speculation. I think it's not a good idea to keep an alternative account they'll barely use. Shows what they think of you.
If they legitimately spilt time then I think it's okay, still fairly active. Again, just have to access and user judgment. I think it's important to consider what's best for your current members though. If they just hang around to stop on when they get bored idk hah, feels like a negative impression to me.
3) I think giving a firm message is okay, just be willing to accept that they probably aren't likely to keep guesting if they've refused before. If you're okay with that, and feel they're not a positive influence, I think that's what I would do. I personally advise against not allowing guests. Removes the opportunity for someone interested to check y'all out and frankly when I was looking any chat that didn't allow guests was one I skipped. I'm in no condition to post. Wait a minute - I don't have to listen to myself! I'm drunk
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14-Oct-2016 00:20:21
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