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bad names
Feb Member 2022

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I am one of the players that uses Legacy mode to play the game, I prefere the simpler layout over the more click intensive EOC mode.

But this lates skill Necromancy has made the game harder to play for Legacy users, specialy the quest Alpha vs Omega, which is imposible to complete in Legacy mode.

Under game guide - combat - scroll down to Legacy part. I copy pasted the following :

"Although it may be seen as a simpler system, players who choose to use it are not penalised. Combat is much simpler - simply click on an enemy to attack them and your character will do all the work"

There is even servers dedicated to Legacy mode. So I would asume playing Legacy mode is a legit way to play the game. Yet I can't complete a quest useing it, therefor Legacy users is being penalised

I hope this is an oversight by Jagex and this will get fixed asap, so Legacy users can get their quest cape.

Edit to add:
I am well aware of Eoc Revolution Mode with Legacy interface and I have tried playing the game like that.
But that does not fix the issue of completing quest like Alpha vs Omega, where you have to use specific abilities at specific times during the fight.
Jagex made the option, so we could play the game the way we prefere. With the introduction of Necromancy and the quest such as Alpha vs Omega that option got removed in my opinion.
To repeat what Jagex wrote: players who choose to use it are not penalised.
Then I should be able to complete that quest in Legacy to regain my quest cape otherwise it's a false statement. Which they need to adress in some way. All I am asking, is to make it posible to regain my quest cape in Legacy mode.

10-Sep-2023 11:15:42 - Last edited on 10-Sep-2023 17:06:02 by bad names

Roddy Piper
Jan Member 2011

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I know you prefer Legacy, I did too. But playing EOC with the Legacy interface is awesome. The only difference is the ability bar(s) above the chat and the adrenaline bar.

You can set full revolution and minimize the ability bars, just leaving the adrenaline bar if you wanted. (if that is too much, it might be easier to convince Jagex to hide the adrenaline bar rather than improve Legacy)

It requires some setup, binding weapons to action bars, but it's great. I resisted at first, but the AOE attacks and surge/dive sold me.

As a plus, you can always just switch right back to Legacy.

10-Sep-2023 14:50:15

Dilbert2001
Jun Member 2006

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In case if you don't realize, there is a Revolution Mode in RS3, which you click and attack mobs just exactly like Legacy Mode, only with EOC level powerful abilities.

Revolution mode is so easy to that even Legacy Mode only users like J1mmy confessed they made a blunder by not knowing RS3 has such an easy Legacy-ish game mode.

10-Sep-2023 16:00:57

Mixed Slush

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There are several parts of the game unplayable in legacy which is why I and many others don't play the game any longer since Jagex made it clear they don't care about legacy. So what with that on top of all the terrible.microtransactions there's no point expecting to find anything to play. You're better off playing old school.

10-Sep-2023 17:17:41

Dilbert2001
Jun Member 2006

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"Although it may be seen as a simpler system, players who choose to use it are not penalised.
Combat
is much simpler - simply click on an enemy to attack them and your character will do all the work"


Please pay attention to the context, it refers to combat not being penalized specifically, and nothing about quest. Similar to other game modes, each game mode has its restriction and is penalized in a certain way. For instance Ironmen are definitely penalized by not being able to trade and use the GE, group etc. If you choose to be using specific game modes, you should know you will have inevitably be "penalized" in some ways to play the game.

10-Sep-2023 17:34:36

Dilbert2001
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We already knew game modes like IM were not just "penalized" but flat out prohibited in FSW. So?

We should all know game modes have restrictions and with restrictions we will inevitably have "penalties" in certain aspects of the game play. That's the design of game modes, otherwise all "game modes" will just be cookie cutter modes.

10-Sep-2023 17:43:42

Mixed Slush

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Well as a legacy player I think it's top 3 most disgusting things have ever done and as a legacy player who already asked and got told jagex don't care I'm just saying they don't care and it's disgusting and people should just play old school because why put.up with it? No need to.put.up with that sort of neglect and abuse when you're paying.

10-Sep-2023 18:11:13

Dilbert2001
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"I am one of the players that uses Legacy mode to play the game, I prefere the simpler layout over the more click intensive EOC mode."


"Edit to add:
I am well aware of Eoc Revolution Mode with Legacy interface and I have tried playing the game like that."


Glad to know you know Revolution Mode explicit so you should have answered your question about simpler layout and click intensity. The obviously answer is "NO DIFFERENT, Shrug!" (with emoticon) as J1mmy opined.

"I hope this is an oversight by Jagex and this will get fixed asap, so Legacy users can get their quest cape."


I don't think so as there are a few RS3 features that require abilities. For instance, kill Zilyana under the effect of an ultimate. Players knew them for like a decade, but hardly anybody has any issue just using abilities once in a blue moon. Jagex knew it for a decade, players who aren't interested in RS3 knew it for a decade, even many OSRS players who were disinterested in RS3 voiced out with no different, no problem. It is nothing new at all, and nothing to be "fixed".

Legacy players coming to RS3 are going to be naturalized by the awesomeness of Full Manual EOC and the ease and superiority of Revolution over Legacy Mode anyway. That's why we see Legacy Only Worlds keep getting removed as RS3 players have selected EOC/Revolution Modes naturally. Nothing to fixed, and a waste of time to try to fix against natural selection.

10-Sep-2023 18:34:02 - Last edited on 10-Sep-2023 18:54:48 by Dilbert2001

Mini JIT
Oct Member 2014

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"I am one of the players that uses Legacy mode to play the game, I prefere the simpler layout over the more click intensive EOC mode."


"Edit to add:
I am well aware of Eoc Revolution Mode with Legacy interface and I have tried playing the game like that."


Glad to know you know Revolution Mode explicit so you should have answered your question about simpler layout and click intensity. The obviously answer is "NO DIFFERENT, Shrug!" (with emoticon) as J1mmy opined.

"I hope this is an oversight by Jagex and this will get fixed asap, so Legacy users can get their quest cape."


I don't think so as there are a few RS3 features that require abilities. For instance, kill Zilyana under the effect of an ultimate. Players knew them for like a decade, but hardly anybody has any issue just using abilities once in a blue moon. Jagex knew it for a decade, players who aren't interested in RS3 knew it for a decade, even many OSRS players who were disinterested in RS3 voiced out with no different, no problem. It is nothing new at all, and nothing to be "fixed".

Legacy players coming to RS3 are going to be naturalized by the awesomeness of Full Manual EOC and the ease and superiority of Revolution over Legacy Mode anyway. That's why we see Legacy Only Worlds keep getting removed as RS3 players have selected EOC/Revolution Modes naturally. Nothing to fixed, and a waste of time to try to fix against natural selection.

Making up lies again? When did any Legacy only worlds get removed? Normal worlds have been removed many times on RS3 due to 20% of the player base from pre EOC.

80% voted to add Legacy in 2014 post EOC. Less players because it half the xp/ damage of revo not because they do not like it. Have equal damage to both styles and more would use it.

@OP Can Rabid Jack be killed on Legacy? I would have thought the stun would be risky/ deadly.

10-Sep-2023 19:37:59

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