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Eubergibbon
May Member 2016

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Hello, does there happen to be a forum thread collating feedback about the "Upcoming Completionist Capes Strike" that was posted on Reddit by Mod Abe, 20 days ago about a proposed update in April?

I was checking if there was a thread on the forums as well not everyone (specifically thinking of myself) has a Reddit account to leave our feedback and thoughts. I have tried to search but was struggling to find anything more relevant than the Pinned thread on Achievements.

Edit - No Mod response so leaving feedback here.


Why not add the Master Quest Cape and GlobeTrotter outfit to the MASTER completionist Trim requirements.

I can understand reaper crew being added to Trimmed Completionist cape but some of the really highly skilled PvM at 100% enraged I personally feel is better suited to MASTER trimmed completionist.

To be able to engage in 100% PvM enraged content is quite a departure for some player styles. It has a large skill requirement that you need to develop over time, there is alot of in game requirements to met, there is real life hardware requirements (is the average player going to manage this on mobile with only 16 abilities available I think not) and let us not forget the physical requirements and strain to accomplish this task. This can exclude certain demographics who are physically not capable of being able to engage in that lvl of content. We are an aging population of gamers!

Issues have been raised with doing long tedious grinds for minigames rewards or dated content and some of these have been removed from various cape requirements. For others there is a work around for grindy engagement due to merchant. A work around can not be implemented for Enrage PvM bosses so effectively you will be limiting or even excluding some of the player base.

It seems obvious to me with the introduction of the new MASTER trim cape that this could be the home for some of the more niche/higher tier content.

06-Apr-2023 22:46:28 - Last edited on 17-Apr-2023 12:20:25 by Eubergibbon

Daddy Roshi
Jan Member 2018

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isnt one that im aware of if there was it would be in the future game updates section u can try asking there and maybe a j-mod will post but its unlikely tbh who knows though :)

id be interested in it if there was one but j-mods generally use twitter and reddit for feedback now :/
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06-Apr-2023 23:35:31

DrauDaedolon
Aug Member 2006

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I was interested in this discussion as well (though my chances of ever owning a trimmed cape are basically zero).

I don't know if you've already seen it, but a follow-up was posted about 16 days ago on Reddit in response to feedback. Pasting it here for convenience:

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Hi all, just wanted to follow up on this thread now that we have gone through the replies and agreed on some changes. Thanks to all of you who left feedback - it has been super useful! Based off of your comments, we have identified some changes we would like to make to the original suggestions:

Chompy Massacre will no longer be removed from the requirements for the Trimmed Completionist Cape.

Are You Winning, Zam? II will no longer be added to the requirements for the Trimmed Completionist Cape.

The new Scrolling in the Deep achievement will have a grace period of one year.

Two new questions will be added to the poll:

Should the Are You Winning, Zam? II Achievement (Solo 100% Zamorak) be required to unlock the Trimmed Completionist Cape?

Should we consider renaming the Completionist and Trimmed Completionist capes to better fit their requirements?

07-Apr-2023 22:53:07 - Last edited on 07-Apr-2023 22:53:49 by DrauDaedolon

Eubergibbon
May Member 2016

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Thank you, Yes the poll has just came out.

I really feel Jagex and community are missing the obvious, what about the MASTER Trim Comp Cape?

Add any of the contentious content that is niche or that many players do not engage with there. It has the title after all?

17-Apr-2023 12:08:52 - Last edited on 17-Apr-2023 12:24:30 by Eubergibbon

Rikornak
Oct Member 2013

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The master trimmed comp cape isn't an additional tier of comping if you want to imply that - it basically just shows you got all virtual 120s in addition to trimming. They proposed a three tiered comp system back in 2019, but this cape isn't that. Honestly - I still think it should be, since there is a lot of stuff that would fit better on a third one - and there is more than enough things that could be added to the first two - without having to go back to random achievements. Improvements: Tooltip / (F2P) QoL v2
Quick Fixes: Invention

17-Apr-2023 15:04:43 - Last edited on 17-Apr-2023 15:16:42 by Rikornak

Eubergibbon
May Member 2016

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You make a valid point, I can understand the point being made that it was never intended to be another tier of completionism and if it remains that way so be it, but you got me thinking about that now.

Original Intentions aside, realistically Master T Comp cape is a T Comp cape + something - for me it makes sense to go a bit further with that cape (adding the MQC and Globe trotter) rather than make drastic changes to the current status quo on the trim cape.

By adding to current T Comp cape, for me there is a risk of it being perceived as significantly changing the goal posts, i.e. removing possibilities rather than adding/inspiring goals. It also leads to the question what would be next?

Personally I would still be in favour of additional other achievements being added to MASTER trim comp cape particularly for content not accessible/easily accessible to EVERYONE.

17-Apr-2023 19:01:06 - Last edited on 17-Apr-2023 19:02:26 by Eubergibbon

Rikornak
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In general I think it would be best if they would focus on what this thing initially was intended for - completing and unlocking things that only can be done once.

They do acknowledge this as an issue, since they removed a couple of non-completable achievements (i.e. doing x wilderness flash events, killing the penance king) - but on the other hand they added others (i.e. things like doing every agility course once is no completable - of course it's nothing that would suddenly prevent players to gain that cape, but it's still unfitting). The completables on the other hand really are great though - a lot of things I wished to have seen acknowledged before.

Their proposal in 2019 was going for more achievement based capes focussing on things, that can be done at all times, but they fell back to the original completion approach - having cut a couple of non-completables like the reaper or talking to some random dude in a random suit of armour, which takes a long time to be obtained and technically can be repeated over and over again. But yeah meanwhile they added more. And it's really not like they would need to. There are so many actually completable things still not covered.

A bit of rambling, but I think it's important they stick to a system. That's why I voted for MQC and globetrotter, but against the reaper and zamorak to be added to that cape. Improvements: Tooltip / (F2P) QoL v2
Quick Fixes: Invention

17-Apr-2023 19:13:04 - Last edited on 17-Apr-2023 19:51:17 by Rikornak

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