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Azigarath

Azigarath

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Haha, yeah. I was always the kind of person who acts before thinking, and I always did things my way due to my impulsive nature. In fact, my music teacher called me a rebel a few times with good humour, whereas everyone else would do anything she says immediately.

I think I was always self-centered back then, and even when I was typing my stories I sometimes put their priority above my college/university homework without regard to the consequences. Fortunately I never failed anything back then, and ended up with a C+ in two classes which is much higher than my average grade.
I am unusual because I am a good student but I get poor marks, and I also know much more than other pupils but they still manage to get A+ whenever they want, and they are the stupidest people I have ever met, who lack common sense to such an extent that when asked a question outside their projects they have no idea how to react.
A funny story was that in geography, I was doing a vocal/visual presentation (I didn't have notes with me unlike everyone else) about P-waves and mohorovicic discontinuity and the whole class thought I was talking about waves from the ocean. I guess after half a dozen graphs and examination of igneous rocks in pictures the class still didn't know what I was talking about, and it came as a great surprise to them that, at the end of my presentation, that I was talking about something relating to geology. Our teacher Brad was the only one who knew what I was talking about and had to spend five minutes to get the class to have an idea what my presentation was about. Still, a D average loser shouldn't be able to mind boggle A+ students.
Oh well, at least I can still appreciate stories with value.

03-May-2012 18:49:06 - Last edited on 03-May-2012 18:50:37 by Azigarath

Englishkid62

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Living your life as you want to live it and spend time on the things that matter to you is not what I would call self-centred behaviour. Self-centred behaviour would be that you're living your live as you want to live at the cost of someone else's. So while writing stories as opposed to doing college work is fine, if you were to write hateful anti-southern European stories and post it on here, that is not fine :P
But then, not doing college work will always come back to bite you.

04-May-2012 02:44:31 - Last edited on 04-May-2012 20:20:32 by Englishkid62

Reaper Ben

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Grades in school don't necessarily represent your knowledge, it represents your ability to pass tests. Some teachers realize that, some don't, and others just don't care. You just have to find the right teacher(s). I'd suggest trying Science departments: That's where the teachers are all focused on facts rather than "fluff". There's this guy I know who always gets As on essays, while I mostly get Bs on those, and I asked him how he manages to get As. He laughed and told me that to get an A on 10 pages papers you have to write without saying anything. So grades also depend on how well you know the system and the teacher.
Some teachers care about what you know, others about how creative you can be. Once again, it depends on the department you are studying in. Although you might not like it, sometimes to get good grades you have to mold to what the teacher wants to see in your work. Other times it's best to stand your ground and do things the way you're use to doing them. Really depends on the teacher.
Also grade A students can be impressed by any other student no matter his/her grade depending on the subject that is being talked about. It really depends on what they have learned in the past.

04-May-2012 15:51:43

Englishkid62

Englishkid62

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There is only one way they can quantify the improvement of everyone, and that is through tests and exams.
If there aren't any, then no one would feel the need to grow - at all. If there aren't sufficient motivation and consequences for improving/not improving, then the education system would be divisive in allowing people who want to improve at their own rate and in their own direction while others chose not to improve at all. Then education would be a complete waste of money because some who study a lot will complete a course in two years while some will take ten. We don't have the money for people who take ten years to complete a course. They might as well not study and we'll charge for education.
In a free education system tests forces pupils to mature at a set rate in order to give the best returns for taxpayer's money and they must find the lowest medium that they can use to assess everyone.
And I don't see anything wrong with fulfilling other's expectation of you. After all, if your teacher wants you to complete this paper for your exam (and it is indeed for your own good that you complete this exam), then what's wrong with doing it?

04-May-2012 20:28:25

Azigarath

Azigarath

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I think it's safe to say that grades aren't everything and a form of evaluation is necessary to justify what a person has learned. The human brain is too complex to understand fully, too. But most people have the ability to learn more and more, inside and outside of the education system, and I seem to be someone whose focus is upon things found on the other side of the wall.
But yeah, sometimes we have to change to best suit with what a teacher expects, they're human too, and I'd reckon teachers can learn a lot from their students.
Well, I think that's all I have for now. Thanks for the tips, every bit of info helps.

04-May-2012 22:27:09

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