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Poller5
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Well, your synopsis more or less aligns with what I was trying to convey, so that’s something, I suppose. Incidentally, there was some conscious inspiration drawn from Harry Potter, though not the scene you mentioned (though that scene does move me more than perhaps any other in literature, so the comparison is welcome). The one I did draw from was the first time Harry saw the Mirror of Erised, with his parents at the front and the rest of his family stretching on interminably into the background. That the narrator’s mother had died before he remembered her is almost certainly inspired by that, though it wasn’t consciously written so.

I do see where you’re coming from on the “chill bite* sentence – the tone isn’t quite right at that point – the description is too concrete, or something similar, compared to the rest of it. Though, in saying that, it may be the first two sentences (which I also quite like) that don’t quite fit with what follows.

The “quick/quick” line is, yeah, probably a little weak (in construction, at least), but that kind of wordplay is super fun. It did feel out of place at the time of writing, though.

The seed of this piece was planted by the Alaska article a few months ago – I had some sort of vaguely Lovecraftian finding something in the snow plot bouncing around my mind – so this was definitely written by (and therefore to some extent for) someone with that sort of arctic fascination. The idea was somewhat that this is some sort of northern folktale, the sort of thing a primitive people would believe to be unmistakeably magical, but that modern thinking would take as simple hallucinations brought on by sensory deprivation while he knew the path all along, or some similarly scientific explanation. That, of course, the former is actually more or less stated to be true probably says a great deal about my general sorrow at the sterility of the modern scientific outlook.

18-Jul-2013 01:21:49

Poller5
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I did think the ending was the weakest part when I wrote it, though it stands up better than I thought it might upon re-reading. At any rate, I never had as clear a picture of how he would wake up and what sort of token there might be that the experience had indeed been magical. That he got in without anyone noticing wasn’t really designed as a sign that he arrived with magical aid, but on re-reading that idea should probably be expanded. The familial strand that it was his son who woke him up – brought him back to the living, in a sense – when he had followed his fathers home is also something I could probably flesh out more (it just occurred to me now, rather than in the writing, but I do quite like it now it comes to mind).

18-Jul-2013 01:22:19

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I liked the bit about it being his son, actually. It just seemed really weird that he somehow made it to his bed without anyone noticing (unless say, you make reference to child/mother being out, but that wouldn't make much sense, given the storm.) That sort of teleportation or transportation didn't seem to fit with the rest of the magic, to me. With the rest of the story, it seemed clear that he was being led by the spirits, rather than they were actually carrying him, or something.

The idea that comes to my mind is maybe something about the darkness starting to recede, and a light becoming blinding like he was finally reaching Valhalla or Heaven or whatever other after-life you want to use. Then boom, something tiny and waste high runs into his leg and grabs him and he's woken from the trance to find that he's standing in the doorway to his house with his child embracing him and shouting to mommy or something?

On the other hand, I do see how the current writing reinforces the idea that it really is magic rather than just hallucinations and muscle memory. It just seemed to reinforce the wrong type of magic in my reading, almost.

It's just something I would recommend looking at one way or the other if you ever rewrote it. Hell, it could even be just a mention it's morning, and he's only sleeping on the couch, so it's implied he got home after wife and son went to bed. Though that also robs the confirmation of magic, too. So I guess I really don't know what I'd recommend. I just know the way it is currently stood out to me as something that could be improved.

18-Jul-2013 04:29:18

Poller5
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Yeah, I certainly see your point about some sort of teleportation not being the right kind of magic. That said, there is the idea of him entering the storm, which... well, I never had a concrete idea of what that meant, per se, but the conception was there that that was him entering his house, or somehow enabling that entrance.

If there's one thing talking about this is proving, it's that either I did a brilliant idea of conveying absolutely inexplicable events, or didn't quite put enough thought into actually knowing what was happening. Since the idea was born based more on the images of ghosts in the snow than anything else, perhaps the fact that the actual plot is a little hole-y isn't overly surprising.

The other weird thing, which occurred to me while writing (at something like 12:30 am, it must be said) was that he'd in all probability share a bed with his wife, so that kinda scuppers that part of the ending. Like I said, the image in my head was all of the beginning and the storm - I never really knew how it was going to end until I wrote it.

18-Jul-2013 06:08:33

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Poller5 said :


The other weird thing, which occurred to me while writing (at something like 12:30 am, it must be said) was that he'd in all probability share a bed with his wife, so that kinda scuppers that part of the ending.


That's been on my mind throughout the discussion. If it's night and she's in bed, she would notice. Still, it's not a terrible problem, and it doesn't really take away from the emotional impact of the story, which is what we read for anyway. Fixing it would only make it a little sharper and cleaner, really.

18-Jul-2013 06:15:58

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I do find it a little ironic that the previous assignment (creating a scene) was significantly easier for me to conceptualize than this one is. Granted Xen is no longer here and there is no more reason to post, but what the heck I'd like to see a good discussion about magic in writing. Mostly because there are a billion awesome ideas in philosophy and other areas of study to write about, but magic does not fit in with any of that. My question is: do we over-emphasize magic as a concept to be delved into and explored in fantasy?

I personally think we do, especially when we've got numerous other concepts to work with. Magic can be great if you get it right, but is it any different from writing a good story about people struggling against impossible forces? As strange as it is for me to say on a forum based around a fantasy game, maybe we should shift the focus away from the magic being explored to more important aspects of a good story like engaging characters that you can love and hate simultaneously. Thoughts? Comments? Or am I beating a dead horse?

12-Sep-2013 04:57:19

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