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This blog marks an improvement over the old one, however I think it needs some major reworks for the minigame to be a success.
Lets start with what I like.
I like the idea of having different builds available to players, so everyone can experience different PvP scenarios, although I'm not sure if cycling through them is a good idea. Why can't we choose what type of fight we want?
I like the new ornament kits, although I wonder how often they'll be seen because you don't often see ornament kits from last man standing.
I wonder how the 400 available items will work. Will players be able to take items they can't use into fights? Will there be any rules to limit certain items, like the duel arena had?
I'm a little unsure about the changes to the minigame tab. Why does the PvP arena need it's own button as opposed to just being part of the minigame list? RIP Forums
Finally we have signatures in the surprise forum update. I'm Lewis, I play Old School & I've been playing since 2005.
Lets start with what I like.
I like the idea of having different builds available to players, so everyone can experience different PvP scenarios, although I'm not sure if cycling through them is a good idea. Why can't we choose what type of fight we want?
I like the new ornament kits, although I wonder how often they'll be seen because you don't often see ornament kits from last man standing.
I wonder how the 400 available items will work. Will players be able to take items they can't use into fights? Will there be any rules to limit certain items, like the duel arena had?
I'm a little unsure about the changes to the minigame tab. Why does the PvP arena need it's own button as opposed to just being part of the minigame list? RIP Forums
Finally we have signatures in the surprise forum update. I'm Lewis, I play Old School & I've been playing since 2005.
15-Apr-2022 14:04:25
All that being said, none of it really matters because the fundamental problems with this idea have not been addressed and arguable you've doubled down on them, which puts this update in a really bad starting position.
Lets start with the big one. Most rewards are almost exact copies of items that players play the game to get. They have slight stat tweaks and only work in PvP but it completely removes a huge chunk of making certain PvP builds and it allows some builds to access items that would otherwise be unavailable to them.
I feel like I shouldn't have to explain why this is bad but since the blog literally says "Do you hate having to complete quests..." and "We’ve come for quests, now it’s time for non-PvP minigames. Skip Barbarian Assault with our next item" then I am incredibly worried.
Questing and playing games for rewards is the backbone of OSRS. Every type of player has to do it. Some choose to avoid certain bits to gain advantages but generally that comes at a cost. These items bypass existing content and feel like the antithesis of the games progression. I question how they will "breath life" into the game and what the OSRS teams priorities are if you think this is a good idea. Clearly something is very wrong internally .
Another similar issue is sharing rewards with other minigames. Soul wars and nightmare zone already have the ability to imbue items. The reason you've provided is that this and soul wars are both PvP minigames, however why are you stopping at just these items? What makes these items different to castle wars armour or lil' creator?
Or on the other side, why is nightmare zone the only PvM minigame to have these items? You could add them to barbarian assault and pest control. \s RIP Forums
Finally we have signatures in the surprise forum update. I'm Lewis, I play Old School & I've been playing since 2005.
Lets start with the big one. Most rewards are almost exact copies of items that players play the game to get. They have slight stat tweaks and only work in PvP but it completely removes a huge chunk of making certain PvP builds and it allows some builds to access items that would otherwise be unavailable to them.
I feel like I shouldn't have to explain why this is bad but since the blog literally says "Do you hate having to complete quests..." and "We’ve come for quests, now it’s time for non-PvP minigames. Skip Barbarian Assault with our next item" then I am incredibly worried.
Questing and playing games for rewards is the backbone of OSRS. Every type of player has to do it. Some choose to avoid certain bits to gain advantages but generally that comes at a cost. These items bypass existing content and feel like the antithesis of the games progression. I question how they will "breath life" into the game and what the OSRS teams priorities are if you think this is a good idea. Clearly something is very wrong internally .
Another similar issue is sharing rewards with other minigames. Soul wars and nightmare zone already have the ability to imbue items. The reason you've provided is that this and soul wars are both PvP minigames, however why are you stopping at just these items? What makes these items different to castle wars armour or lil' creator?
Or on the other side, why is nightmare zone the only PvM minigame to have these items? You could add them to barbarian assault and pest control. \s RIP Forums
Finally we have signatures in the surprise forum update. I'm Lewis, I play Old School & I've been playing since 2005.
15-Apr-2022 14:04:31 - Last edited on 15-Apr-2022 14:07:43 by Lewis Shoot
Two other issues I have with this.
First why use separate game save worlds? In general every minigame is available for anyone to play if you go to it's location. Some worlds are more active, especially if they're designated for that minigame.
Separate game worlds makes it feel like a completely different game that happens to reward you in RuneScape. Is there even a reason to head to the in game arena? You won't need to be there to start fights and you won't be able to watch other people fighting.
Finally who are you allowing to vote in this poll?
I assume the worse and it'll be an unpolled "integrity" update and the rewards poll will be limited to recent PvP players.
I hope this isn't the case as having a minigame that 75% of the entire community votes for would make more people interested in trying it out. As it stands I can't see myself or the majority of other players I know even trying it out.
Unfortunately saying that may have made you ignore my comment even more than usual, but that is a huge problem. We all want the game to succeed but ignoring huge portions of the community is not the way to do this.
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I think this blog really misses the mark and shows a fundamental misunderstanding of OSRS as a game. For this minigame to succeed there needs to be a major rework of this blog, especially addressing the rewards that allow players to skip existing content. RIP Forums
Finally we have signatures in the surprise forum update. I'm Lewis, I play Old School & I've been playing since 2005.
First why use separate game save worlds? In general every minigame is available for anyone to play if you go to it's location. Some worlds are more active, especially if they're designated for that minigame.
Separate game worlds makes it feel like a completely different game that happens to reward you in RuneScape. Is there even a reason to head to the in game arena? You won't need to be there to start fights and you won't be able to watch other people fighting.
Finally who are you allowing to vote in this poll?
I assume the worse and it'll be an unpolled "integrity" update and the rewards poll will be limited to recent PvP players.
I hope this isn't the case as having a minigame that 75% of the entire community votes for would make more people interested in trying it out. As it stands I can't see myself or the majority of other players I know even trying it out.
Unfortunately saying that may have made you ignore my comment even more than usual, but that is a huge problem. We all want the game to succeed but ignoring huge portions of the community is not the way to do this.
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I think this blog really misses the mark and shows a fundamental misunderstanding of OSRS as a game. For this minigame to succeed there needs to be a major rework of this blog, especially addressing the rewards that allow players to skip existing content. RIP Forums
Finally we have signatures in the surprise forum update. I'm Lewis, I play Old School & I've been playing since 2005.
15-Apr-2022 14:04:36 - Last edited on 15-Apr-2022 14:10:00 by Lewis Shoot
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16-Apr-2022 20:15:11
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