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Airflare
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I agree with the mage requirements, but have you not read my post above bro there’s already loads of weapons that require duel requirements? And limiting strength is not a build for any account especially if you’ve restricted attack too

Miu said :
What's with the fixation with giving magic weapons weird requirements like 72 or 78? Just set them to 80 like the rest of the combat triangle. Same for the dragonhunter lance. Set it to 75 or 80. Not 78.

Having "dual requirement" weapons is unacceptable. If you're so scared of upsetting the pking community then just don't go through with the changes at all.

It's also unfair to members of that community that have a build that doesn't revolve around investing into 99 strength in the first place. "Dual requirements" are a bizarre halfmeasure that only creates further ambiguity in the game, as well as in your motives for making the changes.

22-Dec-2021 19:05:13

Airflare
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If your not limiting your account build then grind to 99 strength lol, this game is a grind they’re only considering this option two as it greatly impacts 75 attack maxxed account builds so there’s a reason behind it.
Your just asking them to go for option 1 because you cba to get 99 str and it’s convenient for you lol come on man

Mannana said :
Option #1 please! I've been saving up for a ghrazi rapier and I don't have 99 strength :(

If option 2 were implemented it would harm normal non-pvp players like me who don't have 99 strength

22-Dec-2021 19:08:45

Mannana
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Do you realize how long it would take to grind out a 99? NOTHING should have a level 99 stat requirement to equip, except for skillcapes.

Your argument is ridiculous.

The only instance in which option #2 would be even remotely acceptable, IMO, is if it were something like 80 att + 80 str.

22-Dec-2021 21:40:18 - Last edited on 22-Dec-2021 21:51:27 by Mannana

Mannana
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Dinosauract said :

My own account aside, imo having to grind a skill to 99 just to use a tire 80 atk weapon just seems a bit obsered. Whit some questionable quick maths 99 str and 75 atk would be the equivalent to about 93 in both atk and str which is a long grind for a tire 80.

Continuing off what I was saying, this guy sums my opinion up pretty well. A 99 req is too high.

22-Dec-2021 22:05:40

Airflare
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Of course I understand the grind of a 99, look up my account I have many. That’s what makes the game fun and more exciting is when you’ve reached the end of the road for a final unlock.

Labelling my argument as ridiculous is quite salty of you, I would absolutely agree with option 1 if these weapons were only just being introduced to the game now but that’s not the case, people have spent a lot of time carving their accounts to these requirements of weapons that’s been in the game 4 years.

Saying somthing like this is completely unacceptable is just crazy bro, it’s a fantasy game with dragons and magic lol. Calm the heck down, if it did go option two you’d benefit from actually having maxxed strength.

I’d value your comment if you explained why my comment is rediculous instead of spitting your dummy out, if your argument was that it’s because you cba to grind 99 strength and it’s too hard for you then I don’t think osrs is for you lol, it takes two weeks at nightmare zone completely afk to achieve.

Mannana said :
Do you realize how long it would take to grind out a 99? NOTHING should have a level 99 stat requirement to equip, except for skillcapes.

Your argument is ridiculous.

The only instance in which option #2 would be even remotely acceptable, IMO, is if it were something like 80 att + 80 str.

22-Dec-2021 22:08:49

Mannana
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If you can't see why a 99 strength requirement for a weapon is absurd, then that's beyond me.

But none of that matters actually because I just noticed one thing:

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Option 2


This involves providing the affected weapons with two sets of requirements. As long as one of these is met, the item can be equipped.
"""

It's EITHER, not BOTH. Definitely better, but still weird.

22-Dec-2021 22:17:58

Airflare
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Yeah man clearly we have serperate opinions but that’s what these forums are for :) to brainstorm and give feedback on our thoughts, not arguing with you just discussing.

Maybe 99 strength might be alittle steep, winding to down to 95 would be much more reasonable. Personally I think a lot of requirements in skills should be 90-99 because for me the skillcape alone is not worth the grind, I don’t care how I look wearing a skillcape, but instead want to feel more rewarded for my efforts chasing 13m xp in a skill by using somthing beneficial. I understand some skillcapes like cons have their benefits but not all do.

I also must have misread that only one stat is a requirement instead of both and agree that is kind of weird.

Mannana said :
If you can't see why a 99 strength requirement for a weapon is absurd, then that's beyond me.

But none of that matters actually because I just noticed one thing:

"""
Option 2


This involves providing the affected weapons with two sets of requirements. As long as one of these is met, the item can be equipped.
"""

It's EITHER, not BOTH. Definitely better, but still weird.

22-Dec-2021 22:49:56

Miu

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Airflare said :
Miu said :
What's with the fixation with giving magic weapons weird requirements like 72 or 78? Just set them to 80 like the rest of the combat triangle. Same for the dragonhunter lance. Set it to 75 or 80. Not 78.

Having "dual requirement" weapons is unacceptable. If you're so scared of upsetting the pking community then just don't go through with the changes at all.

It's also unfair to members of that community that have a build that doesn't revolve around investing into 99 strength in the first place. "Dual requirements" are a bizarre halfmeasure that only creates further ambiguity in the game, as well as in your motives for making the changes. I agree with the mage requirements, but have you not read my post above bro there’s already loads of weapons that require duel requirements? And limiting strength is not a build for any account especially if you’ve restricted attack too

"Dual requirements" in this blog refers to pieces of equipment that have TWO separate sets of requirements. Your post in this thread simply listed a bunch of equipment that has more than one skill required. They are not pieces of equipment where you can fulfill one of two different requirement sets to equip it, which is what is being discussed.

Airflare said :
limiting strength is not a build for any account especially if you’ve restricted attack too Setting the precedent for specific account builds to get special legacy requirements on equipment is a terrible idea. The point is that these builds shouldn't have special catering, and that in enabling these either/or "dual requirements" undermines the purposes of the changes in the first place.
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23-Dec-2021 17:33:38 - Last edited on 23-Dec-2021 17:33:56 by Miu

Airflare
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Yes bro if i direct you to read my post right above your reply you'll see thats where Mannana and I got mixed up with the duel requirement as its kind of a simple mistake to make as they are requirements and there are two of them (dual), so technically speaking that makes them dual requirement. Easy mistake, so really my comment there is invalid.

Secondly your missing the point bro, take for example me, I this week got my final combat 99 on mage so its taken me 1 year to complete my account build, i got 75 attack for the sole purpose of bossing only, now its all getting changed for no reason, if these weapons were only just getting released now i would agree with the 85 attack. If these were original requirements i would have never trained attack beyond 60.
When bossing the next bis items would be d skimmy or abyssal dagger which is a huge difference in dps when bossing.
I have a maxed main but never play it because its not fun, so if these changes got implemented i would quit because playing my pure is the most fun I've ever had in pvm.


Secondly looking at your account build of 65 Attack, 77 Strength and 66 Defence and literally no boss kill counts on high-scores i don't see how this effects you whatsoever so why are you so worried about this when you've got nothing at all to lose? I guess being a level 87 in the pure bracket you got wrecked in pvp and can't fight back so instead try to ruin the game for us via updates?

23-Dec-2021 18:08:45

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