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ShawnBW

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I like how the new melee gear and crossbow are direct upgrades from existing content, so as to not nullify them or harm their value, but I do take issue with the appearance of the melee gear. However, the only part of that melee gear I take issue with is the legs: they look like tights! Please, make them bulkier! The rest of it looks good.

09-Nov-2021 03:39:34

Great Dragon

Great Dragon

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you say in your post..... "what you get is pretty awesome".... there you go, putting words in our mouth again jagex... why dont you let US decide what we consider awesome and stop telling us what we get is awesome... let US decide that... if you say a lie over and over enough times eventually some people will start to believe it, and im sick of it.

WE WANT:

PERNIX
TORVA
VIRTUS


keep the vambraces, keep all that other junk... what in the heck are you guys DOING??? are you legitimately trying to ignore the elephant in the room here or are you doing this stuff on purpose to get back at us for breaking away from the main game as some sick twisted joke or something i mean we literally had to shame you into giving us torva instead of virtus.... your afraid of power creep? get over it. we want MORE. and its time we got MORE. and since your going to start taxing the living crap out of us here soon, with no poll, taxation without representation then i think its high time we as players start demanding better stuff to play with because this games getting beyond boring for some people taxes for the church, taxes for the mayor taxes for the sherrif, taxes for the king... its a wonder there is anything left to eat,
does it look like i've struck gold here?

09-Nov-2021 03:47:25 - Last edited on 09-Nov-2021 03:49:14 by Great Dragon

Saint Benjy
Sep Member 2005

Saint Benjy

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This are some very bad changes:
power creep is GOOD
, not bad. The issue with power creep is that it needs to be slow enough that the economy can adjust. Prices need to be able to come down over time, else many players will be locked out of certain gear.

As a rule of thumb, things should not be best in slot for more than 5 years.


Any gear that requires disassembly to make should really not be added to the game. The economy of OSRS should not be a factor when releasing new content, or it's not really a player-run economy.

09-Nov-2021 05:37:19 - Last edited on 09-Nov-2021 05:39:58 by Saint Benjy

Rogue Lemon
Feb Member 2022

Rogue Lemon

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Can the armor be visually redesigned? It looks quite dull when compared to other high end gear. Bandos armor is quickly identifiable by its unique shoulder piece and unique design but this armor looks very plain and indistinguishable.

09-Nov-2021 23:35:38

Lucy HFilia

Lucy HFilia

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Hmmmmmmm.

I like the item sinks. I like that the item sinks require you to break down the pieces into components, meaning if bandos chestplates happen to be abundant and cheap you can buy a few of those for full torva instead of spending loads on both pieces.

One thing that always pokes in the back of my mind:
Ranger boots + pegasian crystal are used to make pegasian boots. Because the ranger boots are so difficult to get, the pegasian crystal is literally dirt-cheap (lots of those came into game because loads of people farmed cerberus and not really medium clue scrolls). This bothers me because these items are coming from 2 different locations, and the rarer-one or more annoying one will dictate the price. If nex is meant to be more challenging but also more rewarding, I just find it odd that many of its better drops will also be dependent on other bosses. And it’s because we’re trying to find creative ways to create item sinks.

I think I like the idea more that some of these items will need to be recharged in some way. Maybe like barrows, where we create another gold sink?

I also think I’m preferring niche items, or items that have unique set effects that can be used in some unique environment. But I think that’s becoming harder to do, and probably due to the fact that we’ve figured out how to turn some bosses into child’s play if you just click around enough (hurray promoting carpel tunnel!).

What if we looked at items that helped reduce or nullify things like stamp damage? Would that be too OP (is that true powercreep?). Or that typeless damage that sometimes has to be dealt with, like the cabbage mage from master clue scrolls?

-shrugs- also just my two cents, but I thought the nightmare was supposed to be like the cool old school nex. Now rewards are harder to consider?

10-Nov-2021 06:21:22

UIM Intern
Jun Member 2023

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F. i typed out a reply, but I was apparently logged out, so here's a rushed 2nd attempt.

I like item sinks, but to keep them relevant, the items needs to be degradable. A fully charged Nex set, would obviously last much much longer than fx a barrows set. It could even be like 300+ hours of combat, but eventually, another Bandos piece would have to be destroyed.
I understand why some people (especially all types of ironmen) don't like degradables, but I think that's more a result of the degradables degrading too fast.

All this said however, I find the visuals on the Nex set to be highly unappealing. I don't see it being an iconic look like the current BIS pieces.
I saw some concept art for raids 2 (of which only the inquisitor set was used as a reward at Nightmare). All those sets looked really good, with both nice 3D art, and color schemes.
The Nex set looks like the Achievement diary, and Dragonstone set both in 3D art (bulky in a bad way), and color scheme. I don't think the Nex set is quite as bad looking as those two, but it doesn't look like BIS gear.

If I could choose one thing to change, it would be the art.

10-Nov-2021 12:31:06

Hooded Myth

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I've already seen someone hit an 85 AGS into 49 gmaul with the max gear, which means there are 70 different ways that damage can happen using this method where someone who is on 99 hp will die. And now you want to make an even more powerful max gear set than this? You can't be serious.
If you really think this is a good update you would have to do something like remove f keys in pvp, because what you want to offer someone who is on 99 hp an 80 possible damage chance to die instantaneously?
What is this, why do you think that someone being able to die instantaneously whatever their hp is a good idea??? I can't understand it and I am a pker.
If f keys were removed in pvp I could understand it being fair (so that people can't gmaul at the same exact time as spec), but the way it is now it seems that this is going to only make a wider door for abuse being a very successful way of pking. Do you think anyone wearing this gear is going to stay for a fight after they special attacked with an ags and a gmaul? Of course not. Besides that, they'd pray overheads the entire fight before spec, as long as they aren't only rushing, in which case they will pray overheads the entire time as well.
So if this is what is going to happen in pvp when this gear is introduced, how is it not that all you are doing is introducing new ways of abuse in pvp? Not just new ways, but more advanced ways of abuse?
You'd be beyond lucky to actually fight someone for a real fight wearing this gear if they stayed and prayed overheads, but no 99 out of 100 you won't be lucky enough to find a fight where people in this gear use overheads, all you're gonna see is rushers.

10-Nov-2021 13:23:28

Maddogwizard

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Nice update!

Only thing that could be better in my eyes is that the Ancient Brew should be a combination of other pots + Nihil shards and Dwarf weed pots. Since the pot gives mage and prayer bonus it should use Magic and Prayer pots in the making of it as well. Like Supercombat potion is made of Atk, Str, Def and Torstol pots.

16-Dec-2021 12:22:28

Great Dragon

Great Dragon

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can you please give us torva, AND pernix. Please. Consider it a last request.
I am an archer at heart. Nex not dropping pernix is like santa not dropping presents.
Sure its still nice to see nex/santa, but without the presents its just some old guy breaking into your house for no reason taxes for the church, taxes for the mayor taxes for the sherrif, taxes for the king... its a wonder there is anything left to eat,
does it look like i've struck gold here?

16-Dec-2021 12:45:22

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