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Sauron 100

Sauron 100

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Hey!

Great job with making this season so unique. It's been so long since the last dmm that I am glad you guys have listened to the pking communities desire for a new season. There are some changes that I don't agree with but this is not the reason for my post.

I would like to ask additional info regarding the season and also remind you of some oversights I hope you have taken into consideration:

1. With singles plus mechanics a pker can attack a pvmer in combat with an npc, but with previous teleport timer mechanics in deadman the pvmer cannot teleport out in combat with npc's. Thus making the pvmer a sitting duck if spotted in combat with npc. Hopefully you have taken this into consideration.

2. With combat level worlds dividing peoples mains and alts apart there will be a lot of smuggling money through ge. For example an agility pyramid alt will buy obscure items like iron arrow (p+) for 10k ea and the main will sell them thus transferring trash for money. Do you have plans to prevent this or will you leave it to players to moderate by having various random offers in the ge hoping to get lucky? (is this even an issue in your opinion, since alts are allowed and they might make lower brackets more action packed?)

Lastly some questions:

3. Will there be starters packs for this season?

4. Will there be double xp during grace periods as in previous seasons?

Thank you very much,

Hugo

01-Aug-2021 22:25:11

De Gier
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De Gier

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Im glad DMM is returning, I hope it will take a bit longer to start then the 25th of august im hearing people talk about. No idea whether the 25th is even true or not. Probally wont be able to get off from work on such short notice.

Not the biggest fan of the 3 lives system, I am afraid it will make people quit the game mode to soon.
Excited to (potentially) play during this DMM Though! and hopefully see some nice content on youtube :)

02-Aug-2021 18:51:12 - Last edited on 02-Aug-2021 19:02:29 by De Gier

Air Put 2894

Air Put 2894

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We need more information to be honest.

Will there still be a 30 minute immunity at the start? will all worlds be only combat restrictive or will there be others that will be for every1? Will there be an experience cap at all? In previous seasons quests like desert treasure were locked until week 1/2 and other quests the same, my question is will it be like that again?

To be honest i think the whole sound of this is great other than I till think an exp cap is needed to give the more casual players a chance, with the exp cap any1 who wants to get to the higher level but will take days to do it will get destroyed by people like alfie who play 22 hours a day and we just cannot compete with this.

I am a veteran dmm player and have played every season and multiple tournaments so i am extremely excited for this but theres just so many gaps in the information given that we cannot properly plan for what to do.

Also last thing.

I am at kind of a crossroads, this is my first year having a girlfriend and as that goes i need to spend time with her and that is where the problem arises... You said the date for dmm coming out is most likely the 25th which i would like to plead with you to change it to the 27th or after as my girlfriends birthday is on the 26th and i don't think i would ever recover physically or mentally if i missed it which what ill have to do if dmm goes through on the 25th (i have my priorities straight). So again i plead with you to help me in the endevour and switch the date of when it will start and im sure everyone would be happy if it started on a weekend as well :) (27th is a friday)

Sorry for the long read but thank you for taking your time to read it <3

02-Aug-2021 20:37:08

Im C O T W
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Im C O T W

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Thank you for bringing DMM back :D

Id like to start off by suggesting that PVM related deaths should not count towards the 3 lives since pvm deaths are fairly rare but are unfortunately a common occurrence for all of us who live in rural areas with less than favorable internet. DMM is a pking game mode and pvm deaths shouldn't count towards our 3 lives.

I didn't see anything like this in the post but in previous seasonals if you died you would get 50x xp to regain the xp you've lost, i wouldn't mind seeing this added as once you die 3x you're completely wiped of combat xp making it very difficult for casual players to actually compete.

Also perhaps you should bring back the 30 minute immunity, so people can get a start without getting smacked instantly.

Since this is apparently going to drop mid week a lot of us will be at work and unable to log in immediately upon launch giving a large portion of the player base the ability to get maxed combat account for each bracket before we even have the ability to log on which is why the 30 minute immunity would be very beneficial.

Anywho, thanks for bring DMM back as it's one of my favorite things to do on OSRS and hopefully we all can have some fun.

Good luck everyone.


02-Aug-2021 23:02:14

Price
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Price

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deadman mode from a single player perspective.

*** Quest & Automatic Unlocks & other changes ***
1)Monkey madness 1 not auto completed ?

2)Deadman drop table are changed
*New Sigils and resources such as food, potions, Herblore supplies and Emblems.
are rune drop´s removed?

3)Inceased xp multiplier after the 3rd death?

***Three Lifes System***

1)Scout raids with an alternative account. clan´s will attack the account at first sight, To restriction all pvm outside of their clan. reset the account after 3 death.
Worlds are limited Combat Level Brackets.
You will need to re-train that account.
whitout supplies/food/stats or ability to trade over items. Lets assume this process will take on average 15/20 hours Minimum to regain at least Combat 101.

2)Godwars, is a no go for solo players, 3 deaths, and you will be set out of the game.
since muling is prohibited for single players, not for clan´s.
They will trade over rare & good items
To the None risk area players. with no death/no risk involved.

3)How will you enforce that clans do not benefit from this versus solo players?

4)Losing all items is that include untradables? like firecape/inferno/mage cape2, avas accumulater etc?

5)What is the reason behinde losing the Deposit box on 3rd death?
5.1) this will be unfair disadvantages for solo players vs clans. since clan´s members will insure to trade over deposit box.
5.2)How will you punish clans for working around the Deposit box by muling to safezone accounts?
5.3)What is the reason behinde losing 100% of all Combat experiance?

6)Mules for clans is that banable too like it will be for single players?

7)Clan members trading high vaule items between them for trading, is that muling ? and why not ?

7.1)Same goes for single players, trading high vaule items to trade/flip.
Why not if above is ?

8) Have you any plan´s on Looking into clan activety in abuse mule/depoitbox?

03-Aug-2021 21:17:54

Price
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Price

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***Single player plus disadvantages***

1)how is that gonna benefit the single player in any way compared to clans?

2)16 ticks (9.6 seconds) is not a lot of room to escape from a clan for a single player. Remember 10 sec timer to be out of combat to log/teleport

3)single player vs clan - Player A & B both, are in combat whit an npc. Player B attack´s A while both are in combat whit an npc.

4)How will you do slayer as a solo player - you can get interrupted off all monsters, whitout ability to gain xp rate compared to "clan"

5)How should you go around getting dragon defender, a clan can lock down that location with bolt ragger´s or even 2 - 3 pk'ers, and close down a world for any solo player.
This is the case for so many activitets for solo players.

6)Escape for a single player vs a clan, in the slayer tower for an example - How will you succeed an escape? Agility shotcuts easy to work around for more than 3 people.
barrows - Godwars - Zeah - Morytania - kharidian desert (barely any safe zones) Ape atoll (is multi too) - karamja just to mention a few. ( since you can be interuptet in any combat whit npc.


***Solution for single player plus***

Only a few changes to be implemented here and it's simple.

1)Teleport while in a figth vs NPCs - That will benefit for none afking + will require fast reaction time.

2)extent the 16 ticks to 18-20 ticks (10.4/12 seconds) (Log out/teleport is 10 seconds. Remove the count down to logout as unskulled)

3)Both player A & B is both in combat with an NPC. Player B will not be able to switch target to player A while still in combat with a npc.

4)all npc agro at all time. Even if player A/B is in a fight, the npc should still be able to pj the player that is not taking dmg.

*** Sigils only tradeable via grand exchange ***

1)How in any world would a singler player gains the coins needed to buy the best/most expensive sigils vs Clan economy?

I wish you all the very best of luck

Cheers
Price

03-Aug-2021 21:21:30

B4ts Attack
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B4ts Attack

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Think you guys forgot to buff* the drop rate of the brimstone boots from drakes as those are also some of the best boots to obtain.
And why not the Fine cloth from shades of morton? *FIXED*


hey? are untradeables' or quest/achievements kept to use for the next deadman reborn season?
this still seems no-life manmode to me.

I'll end there...

07-Aug-2021 03:00:09 - Last edited on 22-Aug-2021 18:29:53 by B4ts Attack

lIlIandylIlI

lIlIandylIlI

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very happy to see this coming back i know alot of players that have been waiting AGES for this to come back including me!

1 MASSIVE PROBLEM FOR ME IS...-- WHY HAVENT WORKING IRL PLAYERS BEEN THOUGHT ABOUT IN THE RELEASE?
25th AUGUST ... WEDNESDAY MIDDLE OF THE WEEK? ALOT OF PLAYERS ARE GOING TO MISS OUT ON THE BEST PART OF DMM, THE VERY START. THE RUSH GETTING EVERYTHING?

PERSONALLY THINK YOU HAVENT THOUGHT ABOUT THIS..
BY THE TIME THE WORKING PLAYERS COME ON AND PLAY THERE GOING TO BE SO FAR BEHIND...
MAYBE REALEASE IT ON THE FRIDAY NIGHT??????? 27th?????
Yes fam

12-Aug-2021 10:27:03

Ippe
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Ippe

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I cannot wait to try it out since this DMM will be different from the previous ones. I'm really looking forward to see how the sigils and combat level worlds will take a place in this version :)
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