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Mod Tomh

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Smokee Mcpot said :
yeah maybe i should checjk the pos.t. But MAYBE JAEGEX SHOULDNT SET A DATE AND NOT MEET IT

I suppose maybe in future we could never give an estimated date for any project, just in case a date might slip, but I'm pretty sure people would prefer estimates which may sometimes change, as opposed to us not giving out any dates.

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31-Aug-2017 12:44:00

Feb

2010

MastrShafter

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Mod tom

OK lets poll regarding all this streamer cronyism, ill bet anything it fails by miles, as for advertising on tv and radio, Ive done it also before, maybe you should target the right times and channels then you'll get too millions ok
As for you nocturnal
are you a streamer im beginning to think so and maybe you should read forums today and look at all the negative feedback on these streamers.
And i don't always complain but we paying for some serious crap updates for 4months
Maybe your happy with crap content in favor of there cheating streamers well me and many others aren't.
As for leaving 07 i still paid my yearly subscription (do you no you don't) because i hoped 07rs was gonna be different and nostalgic but its not ok so kindly STFU on something you no nothing about.

MastrShafter

PS notice they never say anything about these streamers RWTing AND Bug Abusing because they cant deny it as its true.

31-Aug-2017 12:45:45 - Last edited on 31-Aug-2017 12:47:48 by MastrShafter

Mod Tomh

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MastrShafter said :

Maybe your happy with crap content in favor of there cheating streamers well me and many others aren't.
As for leaving 07 i still paid my yearly subscription (do you no you don't) because i hoped 07rs was gonna be different and nostalgic but its not ok so kindly STFU on something you no nothing about.

MastrShafter

PS notice they never say anything about these streamers RWTing AND Bug Abusing because they cant deny it as its true.

The amount of dev work that goes towards the various streaming events we do is pretty minimal. The real reason that there have been fewer larger updates in the last couple of months is because the devs are working on other, large projects that were voted for by the community and take a lot of time and work to do (e.g. Fossil Island, Make All). We have also just got 2 new content devs with Mod Ed and Mod Delta so we should be able to start putting out even more content. To be perfectly honest it is only because we have a very multi-talented team that we have been able to continue putting out content like we have been, without having to have no update weeks. It is people like myself and other team members who have done a lot of the work on the recent QoL features, despite us not actually being content devs. We could have quite easily said that we would just not have an update one week, but the whole team has gone above and beyond to try and deliver as much content as we possibly could.

Telling other players to "STFU" for voicing their opinions whilst you continuously voice yours is pretty hypocritical and not what these forums are really for so let's all please try to not be rude to each other.

As for streamers supposedly RWTing and bug abusing, that is outside of my department so I can't comment on that.

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31-Aug-2017 12:56:08 - Last edited on 31-Aug-2017 12:59:07 by Mod Tomh

Mod Ash

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MastrShafter said :
I see another week of streaming rubbish, well as i told you players are getting fed up with it.
Yup, and I explained why we need to do it, and expressed the hope that players would understand, and realise that it's not harming them. I appreciate you still don't like seeing it happen, though. That's a shame.

Oh, and since there's quite a bit of actual game content in here, and even more coming next week, I don't think you're being neglected.

MastrShafter said :
... you'll be losing the loyal players like me (if you check Ive not logged into osrs since the bullshit you gave me last week and i wont Ive stopped played osrs and i don't actually miss your cronyism ash)
I'm afraid demanding that we stop advertising the game in effective ways is a bit too much of an ask. Goodbye; I wish you well for your future gaming endeavours.

MastrShafter said :
Who said these streamers were famous lol
Google, Twitch, streaming data... I get that you don't like them, though.

MastrShafter said :
As for your marketing budget the 200k or so you've spent on dm or these streamers all you need to do was advertise about rs mobile coming soon on tv or radio way more massive audience would see it than a few thousand watching a bunch of rs cheaters.
I doubt we'd get very far in TV or radio advertising on that sum of money, but thanks for the suggestion. You also don't seem to have very accurate numbers for stream views.

31-Aug-2017 12:56:55

May

2022

Nocturnal024

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Yet so many assumptions.

First of all i'm not a streamer.
The fact why you see allmost only negative comments on these forums is because people who aren't happy response on stuff liek this. There are only 20 replys of the thousends of people who play. You guys are jsut the salty one's who take time to reply, because u have a bad life and take time to bitch instead of being positive. I feel sorry for you that you have problems, but i hate it when people take it out on others who try to do their best.

When you say these streams are bad content you're talkign from your own experience and can't see the bigger picture. Just because you are salty and don't like something, it doesnt mean that the rest doesn't like it. I believe i read somewhere your older than 30 (i'm allmsot 30, so its not something negative), try to think what younger people might find interesting.

As last poiint, i've seen streamers and youtubers get banned over bugabusing and RWT'ing.
So it's probally more complicated than you think.

GL with your life! Try to make less assumptions and try to be more positve!

31-Aug-2017 12:57:01

Feb

2017

Monke Mania

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Mod Tomh said :
Smokee Mcpot said :
yeah maybe i should checjk the pos.t. But MAYBE JAEGEX SHOULDNT SET A DATE AND NOT MEET IT

I suppose maybe in future we could never give an estimated date for any project, just in case a date might slip, but I'm pretty sure people would prefer estimates which may sometimes change, as opposed to us not giving out any dates. the anticipation makes it all the more worth it when it does come, and despite the frustrations I'm pretty sure the majority of the community is happy with the previews and estimates, and understand if the may not be met. Let the impatient people complain, the game's great as it is and it's a tremendous blessing to have quality updates to it at all, let alone weekly, and I thank you for that!

Also, community events are fine, fun to watch and I can only imagine how many eyes it got on the product. After dungeoneering came out on pre-eoc I had completely removed myself from scape entirely since being an avid player starting in 2004. Part of it was real life obligations, but Alot of it was due to disliking the direction of the game. I never so much as checked updates for several years, and little did I know old school had even existed a year into it's start. What brought me back? A video with Mod Archie running a community Corp Mass popped up on my YouTube suggestions somehow, and I come to find this version of the game suddenly exists, exactly the way I enjoyed it.

Several people that frequent this board love to say these community events are bad, but the system works! It's undeniably effective. I feel they're part of a very small majority, though they claim otherwise. The game will do just fine without their subscriptions, really on them for letting their streamer jealousy blind them into such shortsided views.

31-Aug-2017 13:01:12

Feb

2010

MastrShafter

Posts: 537 Steel Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile

Wow you out in force today
Maybe you don't like hearing the truth at Jagex, and now feel the need to justify what you all doing there.
And whats my age got to do with anything Nocturnal
If you look over the past 13yrs Ive played rs you'll see that only in the last 4months Ive ever used forums ok, because even tho rs3 went don't the toilet faster than a train i accepted it.
But rs in 07 was the best rs time ever, and now we've got 90% of hopeless staff who no nothing of how 07actually was back then giving us all this crap that 07 dosnt need
So i and others want to voice our opinion, or is that not allowed in a democratic world of rs forums for elite streamers and brown noses like yourself?

MastrShafter

PS I have a bad life lololol
Kid seriously you no nothing at all about my life and believe me you'd be shocked if you did ok.
You say your 29 so in 07 you'd be 19 and probably playing rs instead of learning to spell, so may i suggest instead of trolling me on stuff you no nothing about, you go learn to spell and learn English grammar.

31-Aug-2017 13:07:42 - Last edited on 31-Aug-2017 13:14:05 by MastrShafter

Jun

2006

Stinkowing

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*snip*

Holy crap, I know you're a negative-minded player, but you're exceptionally pessimistic on this thread. You make Draco_Burnz from the Treasure Hunter update posts on RS3 look completely innocent!

Wasn't it you that threatened a Jmod a while ago? Or said you had more marketing experience than the OSRS team? Because that's not cool at all...

You don't have a valid opinion if you have to do THAT. I could be thinking of someone else, but I distinctly remember you saying "I have more marketing experience than you guys" when you don't make the game =/

You have *no idea* how to make a game. It takes time . And it also requires players (which both RS games have been kinda struggling with in comparison to the heyday of RS) and money. So what if they use streamers to draw new players in. I'd wager that using players streaming to draw in more players is more effective than TV these days; the Internet was and still basically is the way to advertise.

One more (unrelated) thing: your posts are nigh unreadable with how you spell and format them. Oh, I almost forgot.
Oh, I already forgot.

31-Aug-2017 13:08:36 - Last edited on 31-Aug-2017 13:14:21 by Stinkowing

Feb

2017

Monke Mania

Posts: 48 Bronze Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile

MastrShafter said :
Wow you out in force today
Maybe you don't like hearing the truth at Jagex, and now feel the need to justify what you all doing there.
And whats my age got to do with anything Nocturnal
If you look over the past 13yrs ive played rs you'll see that only in the last 4months ive ever used forums ok, because even tho rs3 went don't the toilet faster than a train i accepted it.
But rs in 07 was the best rs time ever, and now we've got 90% of hopeless staff who no nothing of how 07actually was back then giving us all this crap that 07 dosnt need
So i and others want to voice our opinion, or is that not allowed in a democratic world of rs forums for elite streamers and brown noses like yourself? Just because no one agrees with you doesnt mean people arent being democratic.

31-Aug-2017 13:09:27

Mod Ash

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MastrShafter said :
Wow you out in force today
Maybe you don't like hearing the truth at Jagex, and now feel the need to justify what you all doing there.
Yeah, two mods on one thread - it must be like Christmas

I don't mind justifying what we do, since it's actually an important part of keeping RuneScape going, even though you didn't seem to understand the point of it at the time. However, discussing things with you doesn't seem useful, since you simply called it "bullshit", so please don't expect further replies.

MastrShafter said :
But rs in 07 was the best rs time ever, and now we've got 90% of hopeless staff who no nothing of how 07actually was back then, giving us all this crap that 07 dosnt need
In fact almost the entire OSRS team were players or Jmods (or both) in 2007, and even earlier in some cases. I get that you don't see the need for these events - even though it's been explained to you - but I'm afraid we're not offering to stop even if you dislike seeing newsposts about them.

31-Aug-2017 13:19:46

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